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New Daylight Saving May Cause Tech Problems (We're Doomed!! DOOMED!!)
Yahoo! - The Associated Press ^ | 8/7/05 | By ANICK JESDANUN, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/07/2005 11:37:41 AM PDT by paulat

New Daylight Saving May Cause Tech Problems By ANICK JESDANUN, Associated Press Writer 56 minutes ago

When daylight-saving time starts earlier than usual in the United States come 2007, your VCR or DVD recorder could start recording shows an hour late.

Cell phone companies could give you an extra hour of free weekend calls, and people who depend on online calendars may find themselves late for appointments.

An energy bill President Bush is to sign Monday would start daylight time three weeks earlier and end it a week later as an energy-saving measure.

And that has technologists worried about software and gadgets that now compensate for daylight time based on a schedule unchanged since 1987.

"It is unfortunately going to add a little bit of complexity to consumers," said Reid Sullivan, vice president of the entertainment group at Panasonic Consumer Electronics Co. "In some cases, depending on the product, they may have to manually increase or decrease the time."

The upcoming transition evokes memories of Y2K, the Year 2000 rollover that forced programmers to adjust software and other systems that, relying on two digits for the year, never took the 21st century into account.

"It wouldn't be a society-wide catastrophe, but there would be a problem if nothing's done about it or we try to move too quickly," said Dave Thewlis, executive director of a group that promotes standards for calendar software.

Newer VCRs and DVD recorders have built-in calendars to automatically adjust for daylight time. Users would have to override them, switching to "manual" to ensure shows continue to record correctly.

Computers with Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating systems would need to obtain updates. Though most affected applications would likely be taken care of by the Microsoft fix, calendar systems will need to be checked to ensure that appointments already entered get properly adjusted.

Some electric utilities have advanced meters to adjust rates based on peak and non-peak hours, and studies would be required to determine if any modifications are needed. The telecommunications industry, meanwhile, must ensure that its clocks are properly adjusted to bill customers properly.

Adding to the complications is the fact that many computer programs now treat U.S. and Canadian time zones as the same. If Canada doesn't adopt the new dates, too, Windows, calendars and other software would have to learn additional zones.

Technologists sounded louder alarms as the Year 2000 approached. The programming shortcut caused some computers to wrongly interpret 2000 as 1900, potentially fouling systems that control power grids, air traffic, banking systems and phone networks.

Businesses and governments around the world threw some $200 billion at the problem, and the transition occurred without any worldwide disaster, even leading some critics to suggest they were victims of a big-money bamboozle.

The daylight-saving transition will be at most a mini-Y2K, with the impact of any failure far less reaching.

"We're looking only at a one-hour difference versus setting back (the clock) 99 years," said Randall Palm of the Computing Technology Industry Association.

Dan Bart of the Telecommunications Industry Association said Y2K fears stemmed from computers completely crashing rather than simply displaying a wrong time.

A fax machine might stamp the wrong time for four weeks, but "Do I care? Not really," he said.

Besides, many systems have means for self-correction.

Video recorders, for instance, can synch with time signals sent over PBS broadcasts and through electronic programming guides.

Some watches from Timex Inc. can adjust times based on radio signals from the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology and other government sources.

The digital clocks on cell phones are generally synched with the service provider's network clock. Operating systems from Microsoft, Apple Computer Inc. and Cisco Systems Inc. can be configured to check periodically with Internet-based "time servers," though such servers tend to use Greenwich Mean Time and leave daylight adjustments to local machines.

Joe Tasker, senior vice president for government affairs at the Information Technology Association of America, points out that daylight time already varies around the world, and some parts of the United States don't observe it at all.

"We already are used to having a system in place that specifies all the information that we need" for a particular region, Tasker said. "It's just a question of changing the effective date."

Some European countries changed dates in response to a European Union directive to standardize daylight time beginning in 1996. That led to problems with Finnish dates in at least one version of Windows.

A few countries even change dates every year.

Israel, for instance, bases daylight time on the lunar Jewish calendar, and Palestinians change their clocks at different times as an assertion of independence. Windows doesn't even provide an auto-adjust option for the time zone covering Jerusalem.

Moti Tzur, a sales manager at Sakal Electronics Ltd. in Jerusalem, says the constant changes do little to confound manufacturers, sales representatives or consumers.

"We get up and change the time on the VCR ourselves," Tzur said. "These things come with directions."

But while other countries have coped, Americans have largely become complacent and expect many clocks to change automatically because dates have been set for two decades, said Lauren Weinstein, a veteran technologist.

"Missiles won't be launching but it's still going to cause a lot of hassle," he said. Risks grow when "things advance to the point where you expect things to happen automatically and you expect it to be correct."

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Associated Press writer Kristen Stevens in Jerusalem contributed to this story.


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To: jocon307
...we had to walk across the living room to change the TV channel.

I still do. Threw my remote in the lake.

21 posted on 08/07/2005 11:54:01 AM PDT by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: paulat

> And that has technologists worried

Then we'd better not mention to them the current debate
over leap seconds.


23 posted on 08/07/2005 11:56:08 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: paulat
This is so stupid! How does cutting an hour off in the morning and adding it to the evening "save energy?"

If DST is such a good thing, why not just have it year round and leave the clocks alone??? And if it's not, then why are we messing with our clocks twice a year anyway?

Daylight Savings Time is the most idiotic concept ever invented!

24 posted on 08/07/2005 11:56:15 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `oni besheivet `evrato.)
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To: American Quilter

For just the reason you stated! Think about it: fewer people are up early in the day than at the dinner hour. Fewer people =less energy. It makes a LOT of sense.


25 posted on 08/07/2005 11:57:03 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Get over yourselves!)
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To: Dog Gone
"Back when I was a kid, we didn't have clocks, just hourglasses. At the time change, we'd either leave them alone for an hour, or turn them over twice, depending on the season."

Luxury! In my day, we had a sundial. Every spring, I'd have to stand outside with a lantern for an hour to set the stupid thing forward, then in the fall I'd have to hold a tarp over it for an hour to set it back.

26 posted on 08/07/2005 11:58:12 AM PDT by Fabozz
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To: paulat

I never know what time it is anyways.


27 posted on 08/07/2005 11:58:33 AM PDT by Feiny (Practice random and senseless acts.)
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To: Cobra64

I AM an earlt riser, but I love the idea of having more daylight at the end of the day. I get up at 5AM M-F and go to work. What do I care if it's dark outside then?


28 posted on 08/07/2005 11:58:52 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Get over yourselves!)
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To: Dog Gone

>> Computers with Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating
>> systems would need to obtain updates.

> Since I get one about twice a month, I doubt I'll
> notice an additional one.

Win98 likely won't get one, and don't be too surpised if
Win2K doesn't either, which means users (who notice) will
need to manually make adjustments on both the old and new
DST dates.

I support switching to UTC, period, and let local
establishments set their schedules as they see fit.


29 posted on 08/07/2005 11:59:21 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: paulat

your VCR or DVD recorder could start recording shows an hour late.

The horror... the horror


30 posted on 08/07/2005 12:00:33 PM PDT by kenth
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To: jocon307

You had more than one channel? Whippersnapper.


31 posted on 08/07/2005 12:01:58 PM PDT by kenth
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To: Dog Gone

Damn. I thought we had 8000 years before we would face another Y*K problem. Well, better stock up on batteries, ammunition and potable water again.


32 posted on 08/07/2005 12:02:23 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Fabozz

ROFL


33 posted on 08/07/2005 12:04:31 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: paulat
"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws..."

Daniel 7:25

34 posted on 08/07/2005 12:05:04 PM PDT by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: kenth

I used to be on a calendrics listserv. One claim there is that DST did not save energy. Apparently consumption was as high before as after the change. Paul Harvey says DST saves neither daylight nor time. Surely what energy you might save in the evening, you will lose in the morning.


35 posted on 08/07/2005 12:05:05 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: feinswinesuksass

Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?


36 posted on 08/07/2005 12:06:05 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

36 posts before the mandatory CTO reference.


37 posted on 08/07/2005 12:23:54 PM PDT by 11Bush (No outstanding felonies, but my life has been one long misdemeanor.)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

I was thinking the same, another Y2K disaster. How we survived that I don't know. Must have been a miracle.


38 posted on 08/07/2005 12:24:47 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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