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Bush, Sheehans share moments (The Story Before Cindy Sheehan Became a Tool for the Left)
The Reporter (Vacaville, CA) ^ | June 24, 2004 | David Henson

Posted on 08/07/2005 8:17:19 AM PDT by tgslTakoma

Since learning in April that their son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, had been killed in Iraq, life has been everything but normal for the Sheehan family of Vacaville. Casey's parents, Cindy and Patrick, as well as their three children, have attended event after event honoring the soldier both locally and abroad, received countless letters of support and fielded questions from reporters across the country.

"That's the way our whole lives have been since April 4," Patrick said. "It's been surreal."

But none of that prepared the family for the message left on their answering machine last week, inviting them to have a face-to-face meeting with President George W. Bush at Fort Lewis near Seattle.

Surreal soon seemed like an understatement, as the Sheehans - one of 17 families who met Thursday with Bush - were whisked in a matter of days to the Army post and given the VIP treatment from the military. But as their meeting with the president approached, the family was faced with a dilemma as to what to say when faced with Casey's commander-in-chief.

"We haven't been happy with the way the war has been handled," Cindy said. "The president has changed his reasons for being over there every time a reason is proven false or an objective reached."

The 10 minutes of face time with the president could have given the family a chance to vent their frustrations or ask Bush some of the difficult questions they have been asking themselves, such as whether Casey's sacrifice would make the world a safer place.

But in the end, the family decided against such talk, deferring to how they believed Casey would have wanted them to act. In addition, Pat noted that Bush wasn't stumping for votes or trying to gain a political edge for the upcoming election.

"We have a lot of respect for the office of the president, and I have a new respect for him because he was sincere and he didn't have to take the time to meet with us," Pat said.

Sincerity was something Cindy had hoped to find in the meeting. Shortly after Casey died, Bush sent the family a form letter expressing his condolences, and Cindy said she felt it was an impersonal gesture.

"I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis," Cindy said after their meeting. "I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith."

The meeting didn't last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke about Casey and asked the president to make her son's sacrifice count for something. They also spoke of their faith.

While meeting with Bush, as well as Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, was an honor, it was almost a tangent benefit of the trip. The Sheehans said they enjoyed meeting the other families of fallen soldiers, sharing stories, contact information, grief and support.

For some, grief was still visceral and raw, while for others it had melted into the background of their lives, the pain as common as breathing. Cindy said she saw her reflection in the troubled eyes of each.

"It's hard to lose a son," she said. "But we (all) lost a son in the Iraqi war."

The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected.

For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.

For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.

"That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together," Cindy said.

TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiwar; caseysheehan; cindysheehan; iraq; propaganda; protest; subversives; vips; war
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I had to pay to get the archived copy of this report - because I felt that it was important that a public record be kept (here, on FR) of this woman's earlier impressions of her meeting with the president in June of 2004.

The AP reporter who did the story on Sheehan in Crawford this weekend, Deb Riechmann, has updated her story, including Sheehan's spin on this article. Sheehan says that, at her meeting with the president, she was still in shock after her son's death; but now she says, after all the reports that Saddam didn't have WMDs, she is angry that her son died "needlessly."

This spin still doesn't answer her wildly differing accounts of the president's demeanor and sincerity during that meeting.

Additionally, her spin today of "I was still grieving" is not really backed up by her comment in the article above (in bold) that she witheld "venting her frustrations" then, instead "deferring to how they believed Casey would have wanted them to act."

1 posted on 08/07/2005 8:17:19 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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The Left is using this woman. They are "working" her, and keeping her stuck in the anger stage of the grief process.

They have no conscience at all to use this woman for their political purposes; and they are no doubt actively searching for another grieving parent to take Cindy Sheehan's place when she falls apart emotionally.

2 posted on 08/07/2005 8:21:56 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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4 posted on 08/07/2005 8:24:45 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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Shamelessly exploiting a mothers grief just to fling feces at Bush.

5 posted on 08/07/2005 8:26:26 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Baynative

Seeing as the above article mentions that Sheehan had the chance to meet face-to-face with the President and declined the opportunity, I would tell her that she missed her chance.

I am very sorry for her loss. But she is making a mockery of the memory of her son, and only showing herself to be a fool.

6 posted on 08/07/2005 8:27:18 AM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (So? People in Hell want ice water.)
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To: tgslTakoma
you are going to choke when you read this...I posted it last night:

Mom, Who Lost Son In Iraq, Talks About 'Disgusting' White House meeting with Bush

His eyes were empty, hollow shells and he was acting like I should be proud to be in his presence..... 

Cindy Sheehan has already had her heart ripped into a million pieces by the illegal Iraqi war, losing the son she loved more than life itself only five days after he arrived in Baghdad in April 2004. 

There is nothing more painful or more heart breaking than a parent losing a child. 

And for Sheehan to lose her 24-year-old son, Casey, must have been like someone taking her very own heart and soul and, without warning, ripping them out and throwing them into the depths of hell. 

No one should have to experience such pain, but the cold reality of war is that someone’s child actually dies and there are actual parents left living with the hopeless task of trying to cope with the pain. 

And anyone with any semblance of a heart and soul knows a mother coping with such a loss needs all the help and understanding she can get. 

Anyone with the slightest bit of compassion knows a kind word or a shoulder to cry on helps a mother, who experienced the ultimate loss, get through another day when every day feels like it could be the end of the world. 

So when Sheehan received an invitation to meet privately with President Bush at the White House two months after her son died, the least she could have expected was a bit of compassion or a kind word coming from the heart. 

But what she encountered was an arrogant man with eyes lacking the slightest bit of compassion, a President totally "detached from humanity" and a man who didn’t even bother to remember her son’s name when they were first introduced. 

Instead of a kind gesture or a warm handshake, Sheehan said she immediately got a taste of Bush arrogance when he entered the room and "in a condescending tone and with a disgusting loud Texas accent," said: "Who we’all honorin’ here today?" 

"His mouth kept moving, but there was nothing in his eyes or anything else about him that showed me he really cared or had any real compassion at all. This is a human being totally disconnected from humanity and reality. His eyes were empty, hollow shells and he was acting like I should be proud to just be in his presence when it was my son who died for his illegal war! It was one of the most disgusting experiences I ever had and it took me almost a year to even talk about it," said Sheehan in a telephone conversation from Washington D.C. where she was attending a July 4th anti-war rally. 

Sheehan said the June 2004 private meeting with the President went from bad to worse to a nightmare when Bush acted like he didn’t even want to know her name. She said Bush kept referring to her as ‘Ma’ or ‘Mom’ while he "put on a phony act," saying things like ‘Mom, I can’t even imagine losing a loved one, a mother or a father or a sister or a brother.’ 

"The whole meeting was simply bizarre and disgusting, designed to intimidate instead of providing compassion. He didn’t even know our names," said Sheehan. "Finally I got so upset I just looked him in the eye, saying ‘I think you can imagine losing someone. You have two daughters. Imagine losing them?’ After I said that he just looked at me, looked at me with no feeling or caring in his eyes at all." 

Sheehan said what really upset her about the meeting is that Bush appeared to become annoyed and even angry at her daughter Carley, 25, who also attended the White House get-together. 

"My daughter said to him directly ‘I wish I could bring my loved one back’ and he said something like ‘so do we.’ Later she told me that after he made his remark he gave her one of the filthiest looks she had ever had gotten in her life. 

"I just couldn’t believe this was happening. It was so surreal and bizarre. Later I met with some of the other 15or 16 families who were at the White House the same day and, sure enough, they all felt the same way I did. 

"It’s interesting that they put us each in separate rooms. I heard this was done to prevent any type of group outburst and since it’s easier to control a situation when people are separated. Looking back, all I can say is that the meeting with Bush was one of the most disgusting experiences in my life. 

"And I even asked him: ‘Why did you even bother to bring us here when I didn’t vote for you and don’t support the illegal nature of your war?’ He said it wasn’t political but I know it was just another one of his lies, as he probably wanted to be able to say out on the political stump that he wasn’t afraid to meet with families who lost loved one’s in the war." 

Although Sheehan was opposed to the illegal nature of the war from the outset, it wasn’t until January that she began to become politically active. 

Besides speaking at rallies and becoming known in Washington for her outspoken criticism of Bush, Sheehan formed a group called Gold Star Families For Peace, joining together families who lost loved ones in an effort to expose the illegal nature of the war and to hasten the return of troops still fighting in Iraq. 

Her involvement with the anti-war movement also led her recently to join forces with the After Downing Street movement, a civic, political and activist group seeking to open a Presidential impeachment inquiry based on the release of damaging British intelligence documents showing Bush doctored WMD intelligence reports to justify his war policy. 

"Americans need to wake up and we need to put public pressure on our leaders to end this illegal war," said Sheehan, adding that if the public remains passive, recent statements by Donald Rumsfeld that the war may last another 12 years will come true. "We can’t let these people continue to murder our children and also continue murdering innocent Iraqi citizens, now totaling more than 100.000. 

"This is an immoral war based on a false premise. Iraq was never an imminent threat and the Downing Street Memo proves Bush went to war for oil, greed and all the wrong reasons. 

Commenting on Bush’s recent speech at Ft. Bragg intended to rally America behind an unpopular war, she said: 

"He never mentioned the WMD threat and repeatedly brought up 9/11 in an attempt to scare and frighten everyone again. People have characterized the speech in many ways, but if I had to pick a few words, I would say hypocritical, manipulative, condescending, meaningless drivel." 

After the speech, Sheehan was unexpectedly invited on the CNN Larry King Show June 28, but expressed concern and outright anger over the fact she was only given 82 seconds to be "the token anti-war peace speaker" in an hour show which essentially contained a pro war message from all the other guests. 

In a recent rebuttal article placed on the Internet, expressing her displeasure with some of the CNN guests and the short time given for her anti-war message, she wrote: 

"My absolute favorite guest of the evening was Sen. John Warner, powerful chair of the Senate Armed (Disservices) Committee. Of course, he fell in lockstep behind his Führer (Bush) and praised the speech…. I sat in the Green Room with Sen. Warner's entourage. I wondered (even out loud) what price they have paid for our administration's misdeeds in Iraq. They all looked like happy, well-fed, well-dressed, well-educated, and well-hydrated Americans.…I sincerely doubt if any of them had a loved one ripped from their lives by a car bomb, IED, or bullet in an ambush. 

"I spoke with John Warner after his interview and told him unless he was prepared to sacrifice even a good night's sleep over this senseless and criminal war, then he should work on ending it, not prolonging the carnage. He told me that I was "entitled to my opinion," but he would respectfully have to disagree with me. That was awfully Constitutional of him! 

"I finally got to speak for my 82 seconds (all the time Larry King Live could spare for the peace message) about how this war is a catastrophe and how we should bring the troops home and quit forcing the 

Iraqi people to pay for our government's hubris and quit forcing innocent children to suffer so we can allegedly fight terrorism somewhere besides America. How absolutely racist and immoral is it to 

take America's battles to another land and make an entire country pay for the crimes of others? To me, this is blatant genocide. 

"After my brief advocacy for peace, my position was refuted by another mom whose son was killed in Iraq in 2003, saying she "totally disagrees" with me and "feels sorry" for me. 

"Well, you know what? I ache for her blindness and for the millions of ‘sheeple’ who have had the wool pulled over their eyes by this bunch of hypocritical, bad shepherds who are running a disastrous herd over the world. I have distressing news for the ‘Soccer Safety Moms’ and the ‘NASCAR Dads’ who are such ardent supporters of this administration and war: 

"Your grandchildren and children who will be entering Kindergarten this fall will be fighting George's endless war if he gets his way and is allowed to continue spreading the cancer of imperialism in the Middle-East…. 

"Think about it when you tuck your child into bed tonight." 


This women was also part of Conyers kangaroo court in the copy room of the Capitol with that whole Downing Street memo BS and called her sons passing a "premeditated death".....sadly, she is exploiting the death of her son to further her own political agenda.

7 posted on 08/07/2005 8:27:43 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: tgslTakoma

Thank you for paying for this report and providing the article for us.

8 posted on 08/07/2005 8:29:02 AM PDT by Peach
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And .. this is the same thing they did with some of the 9/11 people .. they just used them to further their agenda.

9 posted on 08/07/2005 8:29:36 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: tgslTakoma
I had to pay to get the archived copy of this report

Thank you for doing that.

10 posted on 08/07/2005 8:31:01 AM PDT by Bahbah (Air America: kids-for-kilowatts)
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To: tgslTakoma

Let her meet the people of Iraqi and see if she still feels the same way.
BTW, Thanks for getting this and posting it and may I pass it on to others?


11 posted on 08/07/2005 8:31:01 AM PDT by TGOGary (I would blow my brains out before ever wearing a blue beret!)
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To: Baynative
While meeting with Bush, as well as Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona

McCain?????? These people are from California. Why the hell would the senator from Arizona need to meet with them?

McCain is such a publicity slut.
12 posted on 08/07/2005 8:32:07 AM PDT by The Lumster (The USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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To: tgslTakoma

The wickedness of the left know no bounds.

13 posted on 08/07/2005 8:32:11 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve)
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To: The Phantom FReeper
She DID meet the president, two months after her son's death, in June of 2004. Her recollection then (in June 2004) of that meeting differs wildly from her recollection of that meeting now.

As a matter of fact, if this old story had not been found late last night, she probably never would have admitted that she had a meeting with the president. Now she has to try and spin it. Or more accurately, her handlers have to give her a spin that she has to now tell the reporters.

14 posted on 08/07/2005 8:32:32 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma

Thanks for posting this as an added perspective. Cindy Sheehan is just a tool for the Left.

15 posted on 08/07/2005 8:33:22 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Will work for a tagline.)
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To: God luvs America
Incredible, isn't it? How can a woman's recollection of an event that happened one year ago differ so radically between now and then?
16 posted on 08/07/2005 8:34:51 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: God luvs America

She sounds like your average poster on DU.

This sort of thing really makes me angry. I have to wonder if this woman ever really supported her son's decision to enter the military. If my husband was killed during either of his two deployments to Iraq, I would have been devastated. But knowing why we are in Iraq, and knowing his dedication to that cause and to protecting my freedom, I would never allow myself to be used in such a way. And I doubt that any spouse or parent of a fallen soldier would do the same, unless they already had hatred for their country and their military in their soul.

She disgraces her son.

17 posted on 08/07/2005 8:35:19 AM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (So? People in Hell want ice water.)
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To: God luvs America
‘Mom, I can’t even imagine losing a loved one, a mother or a father or a sister or a brother.’

Among the many disgusting lies in this piece of ....George Bush lost a sister, Robin I believe, when he was a young boy.

18 posted on 08/07/2005 8:36:37 AM PDT by Bahbah (Air America: kids-for-kilowatts)
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To: CyberAnt

The left has no conscience. Somebody used the term "love-bomb" when describing how the left turns a person to their side. Pretty trashy what the Left will do to further their agenda. When this woman falls apart emotionally, as I am sure she will, they will leave her in the dust.

19 posted on 08/07/2005 8:37:22 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: God luvs America

This "lady" found here a nice job the party of hate....

20 posted on 08/07/2005 8:37:53 AM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops and their Family's)
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