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U.S.-Saudi Arabia relations will suffer with death of king
Knight Ridder ^ | As'ad AbuKhalil

Posted on 08/06/2005 8:57:34 PM PDT by jmc1969

With the recent death of King Fahd of Saudi Arabia, the royal jockeying for power in the country has begun in earnest, and it may have a tremendous effect on U.S.-Saudi relations.

The struggle over who will succeed Fahd is not settled. Crown Prince Abdullah immediately became king. (There are no elections to speak of in the kingdom, and women are tightly shut out of the political process.)

But there are many factions in the royal family. And new factions, and perhaps a new generation of princes, will likely be making bids for power. Their agendas for the future do not necessarily coincide.

Fahd changed the nature of U.S.-Saudi relations, especially during the Reagan administration. This came after he designated his favorite nephew, Prince Bandar, as his ambassador to Washington.

Fahd wanted the relationship to mirror strong U.S.-Israeli relations. He cooperated with the U.S. government on many covert ventures, including the U.S.-Saudi alliance in Afghanistan during the Cold War (that would later produce Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi), his destabilization of the now-defunct Marxist South Yemini regime and his funding of Nicaraguan contras.

While the Bush administration has paid lip service to reform in Saudi Arabia, it is not likely to push the kingdom as long as it continues to produce and sell oil at desired price levels, spend exorbitant amount of its oil wealth on wasteful arms purchases from the United States, and fund and cooperate with U.S. covert ventures around the world.

But the new era will be more fraught with uncertainty. And the United States may not be able to count so solidly on Saudi support. That may mean a lot of adjustment, politically and economically, here at home.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: kingfahd; saudiarabia

1 posted on 08/06/2005 8:57:54 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Bullsqueeze!

The King was in a coma for the last decade.


2 posted on 08/06/2005 8:59:25 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: jmc1969

Gee, too bad. They were so good before.

I'm maybe kidding just a little bit here.


3 posted on 08/06/2005 8:59:48 PM PDT by garyhope (Islamofascism wants the death of Western civilization. Simple as that.)
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To: jmc1969

Gee, too bad. They were so good before. The Saudis loved us so much before.

I'm maybe kidding just a little bit here.


4 posted on 08/06/2005 9:00:37 PM PDT by garyhope (Islamofascism wants the death of Western civilization. Simple as that.)
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To: clee1

He makes that point quite well, but there are a wide array of Wahhibi princes in Saudi Arabia jockying for power inside the Kingdom.


5 posted on 08/06/2005 9:03:13 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969
How can that be? I thought the Bushes controlled the Saudis ... or was it the other way around? </sarcasm>
6 posted on 08/06/2005 9:07:41 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: jmc1969

Favorite nephew Prince Bandar got called home and was replaced by the former head of Saudi intelligence. This means something, and I wish I could figure out just what, and why the Bush administration would allow this particular ambassador.


7 posted on 08/06/2005 9:19:22 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: jmc1969

As if it could get any worse.

If relations eroded any further, the tipping point would be breached, and it would be "night night" for the snottys.

Go ahead, punk, make my day.


8 posted on 08/06/2005 9:27:04 PM PDT by msf92497 (My brain is "twitchy")
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To: jmc1969
the U.S.-Saudi alliance in Afghanistan....that would later produce Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi

It's infuriating that this completely unfounded liberal piety has become accepted, unchallenged common wisdom. Are we supposed to imagine that Binnie and Zarkie wouldn't have gone to Afghanistan if America hadn't supported the Afghan resistance?

And the United States may not be able to count so solidly on Saudi support

That's hilarious. The Saudis go out of their way to make sure that the USA is specifically supplied with Saudi oil at all times. According to yesterday's New York Times, Saudi oil executives make it a point, politically, to remain among the nation's top three suppliers, with Canada and Mexico.

The moment we lose Saudi "support" is the moment we start sizing them up for future action. If the famous GWB phrase "you're either with us or with the terrorists" applies to anyone, it applies to the Saudis.

9 posted on 08/06/2005 9:29:14 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("Liberty is not a suicide pact."--Fouad Ajami)
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To: jmc1969

Knight-Ridder....= AP = Pravda = Socialist bias...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1456357/posts?page=6#6

enough said.

They call and try to give me this paper, but since it has ink I cannot use it in the bathroom!


10 posted on 08/06/2005 9:36:08 PM PDT by Prost1 (New AG, Berger is still free, copped a plea! I still get my news from FR!)
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To: jmc1969
One of their kings dies... relations suffer.... 3,000 of our citizens die.... relations never better.
/sarcasm


Kill A Commie For Mommie
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11 posted on 08/06/2005 9:39:07 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: jmc1969
spend exorbitant amount of its oil wealth on wasteful arms purchases from the United States

The author of this piece wouldn't be a bit biased, would he?

12 posted on 08/06/2005 9:53:14 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: jmc1969

Saudi Arabia is a fiendly country..


13 posted on 08/06/2005 10:31:02 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Hmmmm..

Does this mean, that if one of the loony Princes takes over, and he is a Jihadist supporter - in favor of war against the evil Western civilizations, that we can finally designate Saudi Arabia the enemy and destroy the freaking womb of Wahhabi hate?

Semper Fi
14 posted on 08/06/2005 10:40:12 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
>"Hmmmm.. Does this mean, that if one of the loony Princes takes over, and he is a Jihadist supporter - in favor of war against the evil Western civilizations, that we can finally designate Saudi Arabia the enemy and destroy the freaking womb of Wahhabi hate?"

In three one word replies
Hopefully, Yes, Soon!


Kill A Commie For Mommie
Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

15 posted on 08/07/2005 1:16:21 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: jmc1969

Don't give a hoot for this "king" or his b.s. family. After 9-11 and most of the killers coming from the craphole that is saudi arabia I don't think i can have a worse attitude about all Saudis.
The only good sauid is one just like the dead king.


16 posted on 08/07/2005 3:26:09 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: jmc1969
Fahd wanted the relationship to mirror strong U.S.-Israeli relations. He cooperated with the U.S. government on many covert ventures, including the U.S.-Saudi alliance in Afghanistan during the Cold War (that would later produce Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi), his destabilization of the now-defunct Marxist South Yemini regime and his funding of Nicaraguan contras.

Reagan and Casy knew how to play those fat clowns.

17 posted on 08/07/2005 3:30:49 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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