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G.O.P. Wants More Details of Corzine Aid
NY Times ^ | August 5, 2005 | DAVID KOCIENIEWSKI

Posted on 08/05/2005 11:57:38 AM PDT by neverdem

TRENTON, Aug. 4 - Saying that New Jersey cannot endure another governor hobbled by personal entanglements, New Jersey Republican leaders called Thursday for Senator Jon S. Corzine to disclose any other financial dealings he may have had with a union leader to whom he gave $470,000.

Their statements came after news reports that in 2002 Mr. Corzine provided a $470,000 mortgage to Carla Katz, president of Communications Workers of America Local 1034, which represents 9,000 state workers and will be among the labor groups lobbying the next governor for billions of dollars in wages and benefits.

In an interview with The New York Times on Wednesday, Mr. Corzine, the Democratic candidate for governor, said he and Ms. Katz were dating at the time he made the loan. He forgave the debt in December 2004, several months after they ended their relationship, he said.

Mr. Corzine and Ms. Katz said this week that their past relationship and financial dealings would not prevent them from representing their constituents, but they declined to say whether they had other financial interactions.

Mr. Corzine's Republican opponent in the November election, Douglas R. Forrester, called that response inadequate, saying New Jersey voters had the right to know whether their official duties as governor and union leader might be swayed by their personal and financial relationship.

"I think they should disclose everything, especially if there is any ongoing financial arrangement," he said. "It suggests an all-too-familiar pattern in New Jersey of public officials entangling themselves in relationships that are not private matters but in direct conflict with the public interest."

While Mr. Forrester approached the topic rather gingerly, saying that he respected their right to privacy, other Republicans were more pointed in their criticism of Mr. Corzine.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: ads; carlakatz; corzine; jonscorzine; labor; lobbying; lobbyists
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To: Liz
LMAO.."Rim-shot!!!!".....you go, girl...

BTW.. If Corzine is light in the loafers, then Katz really is his "beard"

21 posted on 08/05/2005 12:28:48 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Peach

Um, usually influence buying involves lobbyists bribing government officials, not a government official giving lots of money to a union rep.

I'm also not sure that "buying" the influence of a union rep would be illegal, they're not a govenrment official.

It looks like someone should take a close look at how much the union donated to Corzine, but unless it's comparable or more than the loan, there doesn't appear to be anything illegal here. After all he could have just spent his own money on his own campaign, why funnel it through a union boss?

Unless people think that the loan forgiveness was paid to her because she blackmailed him, I'm not seeing there being anything but a personal matter between them. There just doesn't seem to be a benefit for Corzine in this.


22 posted on 08/05/2005 12:34:24 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Peach

I'm sure he's already done that.


23 posted on 08/05/2005 12:35:06 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: ken5050

THE VERY LATEST:


WCBS-TV Tried To Contact Katz At HER House In Hunterdon County ---the one Corzine bought for her----But The Phone Was Disconnected......BUT WCBS WAS Able To Get A Hold Of Katz Through A New Phone Number Listed at the Hoboken Building Where Senator Corzine Has An Apartment.

Why does Carla Katz have a phone number listed at Corzine's address?


24 posted on 08/05/2005 12:41:37 PM PDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: talleyman

Corzine announced that he paid the tax on this loan.


25 posted on 08/05/2005 12:42:14 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: neverdem
So, if this sticks and Corzine starts loosing in the polls, who are the Democrats going to replace him with at the last minute to beat Forrester (again)? Is Brendan Byrne or Jim Florio ready to run at the last minute?
26 posted on 08/05/2005 12:46:49 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: neverdem

Wow, how they slip this one past the NY Lies editors?


27 posted on 08/05/2005 12:59:25 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: ken5050

28 posted on 08/05/2005 1:00:58 PM PDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: coffee260
Whats with the kid gloves treatment from The NY Times. What do you think the reaction from the Times would be if the party affiliations were reversed?

I'm surprised that they even covered it, let alone place it in the top three stories for the NEW YORK/REGION . You'll have to scroll down until you see "NEW YORK/REGION".

29 posted on 08/05/2005 1:19:13 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: untrained skeptic

It was my impression that Influence Buying would also include a Senator basically buying off a union rep in order for said union rep to endorse various pieces of legislation or support the Senator in upcoming elections.

Influence buying isn't a one way street of lobbyists buying congressmen, is it?


30 posted on 08/05/2005 1:24:33 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Corrupt New Jersey ping.


31 posted on 08/05/2005 1:34:23 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: neverdem
So when Newt Gingrich borrowed a similar sum of money from Bob Dole, the difference was that they weren't dating at the time? I recall that the press was all over the deal and Gingrich paid the money back instead of Dole forgiving the debt.

-PJ

32 posted on 08/05/2005 1:38:53 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: neverdem
For the life of me, I can't imagine how someone who looks like Jon Corzine could possibly get elected to a major office. I mean, the guy looks like a typical elected officials from the '90s -- the 1890s.
33 posted on 08/05/2005 1:40:37 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: OldFriend
Corzine announced that he paid the tax on this loan.

That ain't good enough -- she has to pay the tax on this loan, and if he gave her the money to pay the tax then she must also pay the tax on the tax that he paid (it does get a little circular, doesn't it?).

This is precisely the kind of stunt that landed former Tyco CEO Dennis Kozlowski in jail.

34 posted on 08/05/2005 1:44:06 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: untrained skeptic
Lending someone X dollars and then canceling the loan is the same as paying them X dollars. The person who was the beneficiary of this canceled loan must declare the X dollars as taxable income.

See Kozlowski, Dennis for additional information on how this type of financial activity can land someone in a Federal prison.

35 posted on 08/05/2005 1:46:47 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: ken5050

I hope your tongue is planted firmly in your cheek so you can continue to keep a straight face. LOL


36 posted on 08/05/2005 1:47:28 PM PDT by Primetimedonna
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To: neverdem

I confess I want to make a quip about MS Katz last name.


37 posted on 08/05/2005 1:49:03 PM PDT by pankot
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To: OXENinFLA
I want to see if/or how much her union donated to Corzine's campaign

How much? It's the CWA. Their union dues go right from their paychecks to the DNC.

38 posted on 08/05/2005 1:54:23 PM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: pankot

Did the article actually mentioned what Ms. Katz does for a living?

Was the fact that she represents the CWA and they will be bargaining with the Governor next year taken into the article?


39 posted on 08/05/2005 1:55:19 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: Alberta's Child
Lending someone X dollars and then canceling the loan is the same as paying them X dollars. The person who was the beneficiary of this canceled loan must declare the X dollars as taxable income.

Are you sure about that? I thought the loan forgiveness is considered a "gift", and any gift over 11,000 must have the Gift Tax paid on it, but it is the giver of the gift that pays the tax, not the recipient.

40 posted on 08/05/2005 1:59:13 PM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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