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Lee Marvin, Navy Cross Recipient?
Unknown | 8-5-05 | Vanity

Posted on 08/05/2005 11:30:08 AM PDT by Toespi

I recieved this in an e-mail and have never heard if before. I am not sure of the source. Does anyone know if it is true. It is an interesting story.

Captain Kangaroo passed away on January 23, 2004 at age 76 ,which is odd, because he always looked to be 76. (DOB: 6/27/27.) It reminded me of the following story. Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside 3 and 4 star generals at Arlington National Cemetery. Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer: I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps experiences. In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear-echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is only one higher Naval award... the Medal Of Honor. If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, Marvin credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery. During a dialog on "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson", Johnny's guest was Lee Marvin. Johnny said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima... and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded." "Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But, Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew... . We both got the cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target. Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew. The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan. You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo." On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat. After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life. He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm. America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy. Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst. Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened.


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1 posted on 08/05/2005 11:30:08 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Welcome to the interweb.


2 posted on 08/05/2005 11:31:34 AM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: Toespi

try www.snopes.com


3 posted on 08/05/2005 11:32:19 AM PDT by HeadOn (Strict Construction - otherwise, why bother?)
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To: Toespi

I smell steer flatulence....


4 posted on 08/05/2005 11:32:29 AM PDT by freebilly (Go Manitowoc Bandits!)
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To: Toespi

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/keeshan.htm


5 posted on 08/05/2005 11:32:32 AM PDT by Who dat?
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To: flashbunny

Purple Heart and it was on Saipan. IIRC.


6 posted on 08/05/2005 11:32:59 AM PDT by Bombardier ("Religion of Peace" my butt.....sell that snakeoil to someone who'll buy it!)
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To: Toespi
http://www.snopes.com/military/marvin.asp
7 posted on 08/05/2005 11:33:05 AM PDT by MarineBrat (We are taxed twice as much by our idleness. -- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: flashbunny

hoax, see snopes.com


8 posted on 08/05/2005 11:33:11 AM PDT by slouper
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To: Toespi
Snopes might be a place to check rumors:
http://www.snopes.com/military/marvin.asp
9 posted on 08/05/2005 11:33:30 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Toespi

http://www.snopes.com/military/marvin.asp


Actor Lee Marvin fought in the Pacific theater during World War II, received a Purple Heart, and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery: True.


10 posted on 08/05/2005 11:33:59 AM PDT by socal_parrot (Daddy don't conga!)
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To: Who dat?

Now I know.....


11 posted on 08/05/2005 11:34:39 AM PDT by Toespi (Just thinking outside the box.)
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To: Toespi

Bozo the Clown piloted the Enola Gay.


12 posted on 08/05/2005 11:34:45 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: flashbunny

Captain Kangaroo Court


Claim: Lee Marvin, actor, and Bob Keeshan, television's "Captain Kangaroo," fought together at Iwo Jima.

Status: Multiple:
Actor Lee Marvin fought in the Pacific theater during World War II, received a Purple Heart, and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery: True.

Lee Marvin and Bob Keeshan, television's "Captain Kangaroo," fought together in the battle for Iwo Jima: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2002]

Dialog from a Tonight Show... Johnny Carson...His guest was Lee Marvin.

Johnny said..."Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima...and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

And you know how Lee was..."Yeah, yeah...I got shot square in the ass and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys gettin' shot hauling you down. But Johnny at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew...We both got the Cross the same day but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. The dumb bastard actually stood up on Red Beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. That Sgt. and I have been life long friends...When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sgt. and he lit a smoke and passed it to me lying on my belly on the litter..."Where'd they get you Lee?"...."Well Bob...if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse."..... "Johnny, I'm not lying...Sgt. Keeshan was the bravest man I ever Knew - Bob Keeshan....

You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."

Variations: A later version of this piece included a tacked-on a prologue about Lee Marvin's burial in Arlington National Cemetery:
Many people have always been a bit offended that Lee Marvin is buried in a grove of 3 and 4 star generals at Arlington. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else.

I thought to myself, damn here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:

I always liked Lee Marvin, but did not know the extent of his Corps experiences. Including award of the Navy Cross. There is only one higher award...the Medal Of Honor.
Origins: The above-quoted bit of purported dialog from the Tonight Show does have some elements of truth to it, but although actor Lee Marvin was a guest on that late-night talk show at least seven times during Carson's tenure as host, most of what is reproduced above is an outright fiction or a transcript based on someone's badly flawed memory.

Lee Marvin did enlist in the U.S. Marines, saw action as Private First Class in the Pacific during World War II, and was wounded (in the buttocks) by fire which severed his sciatic nerve. However, his injury occurred during the battle for Saipan in June 1944, not the battle for Iwo Jima, which took place several months later in February 1945. Marvin also received a Purple Heart and was indeed interred at Arlington National Cemetery (but he was not, as some versions of this piece claim, awarded a Navy Cross).

Bob Keeshan, later famous as television's "Captain Kangaroo," also enlisted in the U.S. Marines, but he did so too late to see any action during World War II. Keeshan was born on 27 June 1927 and enlisted two weeks before his 18th birthday, several months after the fighting at Iwo Jima. In a 1997 interview, Keeshan explained that he "enlisted in the U.S. Marines but saw no combat" because he signed up "just before we dropped the atom bomb."

In 2003 someone thought to throw children's television host Fred Rogers into the mix by add the following bit to the existing e-mail about Lee Marvin and Bob Keeshan:
On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long sleeve sweater to cover the many tattoo's on his forearm and biceps. A master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat. He hid that away and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm. America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did, they quietly go about their day to day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy. Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst. Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened.
Numerous rumors about children's host Mr. Rogers having a violent or criminal past have been bandied about for years, but there is nothing to any of them. As our Mr. Rogers page explains, Fred Rogers never served in the military.

Last updated: 17 July 2005


13 posted on 08/05/2005 11:34:55 AM PDT by UnklGene
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To: dead

Damn. I thought it was Snoopy.....


14 posted on 08/05/2005 11:36:28 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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To: dead

ROFL


15 posted on 08/05/2005 11:37:28 AM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: Toespi
At the time of the Iwo Jima landing, Bob Keeshan would have been barely 18 years old. It is hard to imagine an 18 year old Marine sergeant even during wartime.
16 posted on 08/05/2005 11:39:00 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Toespi

http://www.allmovie.com/


17 posted on 08/05/2005 11:39:10 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: socal_parrot

I think all his tombstone says is

Lee Marvin
USMC


18 posted on 08/05/2005 11:41:38 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Nac Mac Feegle! The Wee Free Men! Nae king! Nae quin! Nae laird! We willna be fooled again!")
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To: Toespi
Whoa!...The Captain and Mr. Rogers DID those brave Acts? ....did the PBS "Pukes" know about these Deeds?..These acts were impressive, to say the least. 8^)
19 posted on 08/05/2005 11:46:30 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

I never heard the Mr. Rogers rumor though (false)...

"n another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long sleeve sweater to cover the many tattoo's on his forearm and biceps. A master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat. He hid that away and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm. America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did, they quietly go about their day to day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy. Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst. Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened."

20 posted on 08/05/2005 11:46:31 AM PDT by socal_parrot (Daddy don't conga!)
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