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The Phony Plame “Outing” Story
Miscellaneous | August 4, 2005 | Self

Posted on 08/04/2005 9:17:13 PM PDT by Cautor

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To: Sam Hill
"If Wilson were a Republican and had done what he has done to a Democrat President, we would never hear the end of how he is on the Saudi payroll. It would be on the front page of the NYT above the fold for the next five years.

Yes, that's one of the most appalling aspects of this case - Saudi cash has been flowing to Wilson. Wilson has very close financial and business ties with both Saudi Arabia and Turkey..... not to mention doing his consulting/business strategy business in former French colonies where French gov't, intelligence, and business interests are still pervasive.... it's clear that in this whole affair he has served the interests of Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and France. Of course, the dim-bulbs would say it's all in the US interest because they want us to have the foreign policy of France, but they are so WRONG.
81 posted on 08/05/2005 9:46:59 AM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Enchante
Check out the name of the managing director for Wilson's erstwhile company:

[PDF] Identification of Global Development Alliance Opportunities in WB ...
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Eliase Abu Redeinah. Managing Director. 1-202-887-6171. Washington , DC. USA.
Venture Capital. Rock Creak Corporation. George Taweel. Owner and manager ...
www.dec.org/pdf_docs/PDABY759.pdf - Similar pages

82 posted on 08/05/2005 9:57:14 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Albertafriend

I hadn't thought of that. You may be correct that the price was for the lot only. I will say, however, that the Foxhall section of DC is one of the most expensive. I can't imagine you could buy a lot for anything like $44,000. One could go to the public records in DC and find this out. I did find a web site that I can no longer find that contained a newsletter for the Foxhall Road neighborhood that made mention of recent property transfers and the property in question was one of them.


83 posted on 08/05/2005 10:20:39 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: Sam Hill

"The US government and its foreign policy and intelligence communities are riddled not so much by neocons as with vast numbers of Arabists and Saudi sympathizers and hirelings."

I couldn't agree with you more. I'm afraid even Bush senior has more Saudi/middle east contacts that I care for. I think he's a good man, but he is an old school types who is out to make a buck. Thanks for your thoughts.


84 posted on 08/05/2005 10:22:55 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: Wolfstar

"Pardon my deep skepticism, Cautor, but the last thing we need is for that grand jury to be extended"

You have a very good point. I guess I was only thinking of a way to keep Miller in the pokey til she cried uncle. I simply can't understand why this has gone on and on. Only think I can come up with is that a quick adjournment of case would have had the MSM crying cover-up.


85 posted on 08/05/2005 10:30:01 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: Albertafriend

Good find. I guess the $44,000 was for a lot. Man has property escalated in value in DC since then. Your comment about granite countertops being a fairly new trend is exactly correct IMO. In fact, we bought a 7 1/2 year old house a few months ago and quickly proceeded to tear out the kitchen countertops and replace them with granite--new appliances too even though the old ones were fine.


86 posted on 08/05/2005 10:33:14 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: Sam Hill; Fedora; Howlin; Miss Marple; nuffsenuff; piasa; cyncooper; Grampa Dave; Shermy; ...
....and I'm sure we can count on the MSM reporters to vigorously pursue all such leads now, as they have for the past two years that they've been publishing the DU talking points.... as the Captain's Quarters blog points out, the MSM hyped the story hysterically in summer '03 when swallowing Joe Wilson's lies whole, but then immediately dropped the story fast when the Senate Intelligence Committee report came out (summer '04) and Joe Wilson was no longer useful to the Kerry campaign.....now they have busily revived the "Rove/Libby" theme without ever bothering to do the most elementary research on who the players are, what's really gone on here, and how nearly all reporters and columnists are merely regurgitating the DNC talking points....

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/

"It doesn't take a poli-sci graduate to understand the difference in coverage that the Exempt Media gives for scandals involving partisan political players. Take Joseph Wilson, for example. While he busily leaked or outright broadcast falsehoods about his trip to Niger, he garnered huge media coverage, as his opposition to the Iraq war matched their own biases. As soon as the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence showed him to have lied on several occasions about that report and the nature and origin of his assignment, the media ran and hid from the entire mess. Almost exactly a year ago, Howard Kurtz pointed out the dramatic difference:

Outlet.........Wilson Before....Wilson After

CBS............ ..........30.............0
NBC.............. ........40.............1
ABC.............. .. ......18.............1
Washington Post........96.............2
New York Times.........70.............3
Los Angeles Times......48.............2
87 posted on 08/05/2005 11:27:46 AM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Cautor

Couldn't agree more...Rove Rove Rove....all the MSM is trying to do is nail for something, ANYTHING. They are getting dangerously close to letting this blow up in their face...more so than it has already!


88 posted on 08/05/2005 11:36:40 AM PDT by Politics4Fun
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To: Politics4Fun

"They are getting dangerously close to letting this blow up in their face...more so than it has already!"

I agree. The left is so crazed with hate that it completely overcomes any instincts they have for sensibility. Like lemmings, they may follow this one off the cliff. I sure hope so.


89 posted on 08/05/2005 12:13:56 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: Enchante

Unreal.


90 posted on 08/05/2005 1:57:03 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: Lancey Howard; okie01
Wilson went to Niger BEFORE the SotU Address.

You're right. What was I thinking?!

91 posted on 08/05/2005 7:56:34 PM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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To: All; palmer; cricket
STATEMENT BY GEORGE J. TENET DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE

The list grows longer....

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92 posted on 08/05/2005 10:24:10 PM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: Cautor

There are a lot of excellent books out there on the subject. Unfortunately, I think it helps to know if you are reading a book by a genuine Intelligence officer or just someone who worked for the CIA and thinks of themselves as an expert. Most of the "former CIA officers" who appear on the news are lightweights, building a cottage industry from some limited experience. One I can strongly recommend is "The Main Enemy" by Milt Beardon. He was a CIA Case Officer throughout much of the cold war and then led the battle against the Soviets in Afghanistan. He was deeply involved in the Ames investigation and then later was forced into retirement during the Clinton era for not being politically correct. If he has nothing else, he has integrity. You can really get an honest and fair assessment of the CIA from this book.


93 posted on 08/06/2005 12:30:38 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Lancey Howard
Wilson's initial op-ed piece in the LA Times, written right after he returned from Niger, said that Iraq may indeed have attempted to purchase yellow cake uranium.

Is there a link for that? I'd love to see it...

94 posted on 08/06/2005 12:42:49 AM PDT by NewLand (Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
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To: NewLand
There is a link to the LA Times op-ed, but I don't know if it will do you any good unless you are registered with Rush:

Rush Limbaugh archives - enter: "Wilson LA Times" in 'search' area

95 posted on 08/06/2005 1:16:05 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Casloy

Thanks. I suspected there are a lot of pseudo ex-CIA operatives out there writing their own versions of history. I doubt many serious agents shoot their mouths off. I appreciate your information.


96 posted on 08/06/2005 8:28:24 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: Lancey Howard

Can you possibly provide a date and a title to the story from the LA Times?


97 posted on 08/06/2005 9:03:15 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Cautor

Did you get to see this video? Libbish though:

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/press01.html


98 posted on 08/06/2005 10:38:15 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: Albertafriend

Like I posted to NewLand, the only link I have for the Wilson op-ed piece is at Rush Limbaugh's site which you need to subscribe to in order to view. When you go to Rush's site and enter: 'wilson la times', it takes you to this link:
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3: Joe Wilson L.A. Times Op-Ed
Headline: A 'Big Cat' With Nothing to Lose Source: The LA Times Byline: Joseph C. Wilson Date: Feburary 6, 2003 Joseph C. Wilson, chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad from 1988 to 1991

__________________________________________________


99 posted on 08/06/2005 11:02:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Thanks. That's an easy find at

www.politicsoftruth.com/editorials/big_cat.html

I'm sorry, I have no idea how to make that a live link.

I was really surprised to discover yesterday that Joe's site was still up and current.


100 posted on 08/06/2005 11:16:23 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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