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John Roberts Helped Advance the Homosexual Agenda (Editorial)
Blue Mass Group ^ | 8/4/05

Posted on 08/04/2005 9:10:32 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

It was reported today in the LA Times that Supreme Court nominee John Roberts gave substantial behind the scenes assistance, pro bono, to activists who asked the Supreme Court to overturn Colorado's 'Amendment 2' which prohibited municipalities in Colorado from adopting gay friendly ordinances and policies.

The case Romer v. Evans, was the gay movements fist significant victory in the Supreme Court and paved the way for the more recent blockbuster decision of Lawrence v. Texas which outlawed sodomy laws.

What to make of this? Is Roberts a clandestine agent of the dreaded homosexual agenda? More likely, he was just doing his job.

A partner at Roberts firm was working with the plaintiffs in Romer; and the parter asked for Roberts help, (Roberts being the best Supreme Court litigant) and Roberts agreed.

And having agreed, he gave his all, reviewing briefs, preparing lawyers for oral arguement, and generally being 'terrifically helpful.' That is exactly what lawyers are supposed to do.

This is, an excellent illustration of how difficult it is to discern a lawyer's views from his professional activities. I have no idea whether Roberts believed in his heart that the plaintiffs in Romer were right, but I will say this.

It is of course always open to a lawyer to decline to participate in a case because for whatever reason the lawyer cannot in good consicence represent the client's interests in that case.

The fact that Roberts agreed to participate in Romer at least suggests that he is not vicerally, fundamentally opposed to the pro-gay result that the planitffs sought in that case.

And that, to me, suggests that he may not be the ideaologue that the Dobsonites want on the court. (Can you imagine in the plaintiffs in a gay rights case had approached Professor Scalia for his pro-bono assistance?)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; johnroberts; lawrencevtexas; romervevans; scotus
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To: FormerLib

"Sounds like a classic "divide-and-conquer" tactic to me as well."


The WINNAH!!!


21 posted on 08/04/2005 9:33:56 AM PDT by Maria S
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To: gopwinsin04

It warms my cockles to think that we are about to get another damn blue blood marginal conservative who suddenly goes liberal upon becoming a Justice. END HEAVY SARCASM!


22 posted on 08/04/2005 9:34:57 AM PDT by conservativecorner (It's a cult of death and submission to fanatics Larry!!)
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To: beeler

You work in a law office and are the acknowledged expert on Supreme Court arguments. A colleague asks you to look over their briefs. You expect to continue working at the firm. What would you do? I think the MSM is overstating his participation in this case to split the right.


23 posted on 08/04/2005 9:36:02 AM PDT by sharkhawk
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(Can you imagine that, if the plaintiffs in a gay rights case had approached then-Professor Scalia for his assistance, he would have agreed to help out pro bono? I can't.)

Neither can I.

24 posted on 08/04/2005 9:37:00 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: gopwinsin04

In most cases, making a buck engenders the greatest loyalty in America. Attorneys are not immune from this principle (tongue in cheek). When freed from the reigns of "buckmaking," it indeed will be interesting to see where Roberts comes down.

Anyone who thinks they know the answer is blowing smoke. We won't know until the decisions are made. Conservatives have been burned too many times in the past. That's not being cynical, it's being realistic.


25 posted on 08/04/2005 9:37:03 AM PDT by Paraclete
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To: conservativecorner

This has just assured that the hearings will be must see TV.


26 posted on 08/04/2005 9:37:06 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Reagan Man

Great point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 08/04/2005 9:39:35 AM PDT by conservativecorner (It's a cult of death and submission to fanatics Larry!!)
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To: Paraclete

I don't think anyone can really know until we see Roberts make a comment at the hearings., I seriously doubt he will talk to about this to the press.


28 posted on 08/04/2005 9:39:55 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

No one in America has done more to advance the pro commie pro sodomite agenda than the 'Slimes' group...

Simply divide and conquer..


29 posted on 08/04/2005 9:41:08 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: gopwinsin04
A partner at Roberts firm was working with the plaintiffs in Romer; and the parter asked for Roberts help

How is this pro bono? His firm is being paid.

30 posted on 08/04/2005 9:41:35 AM PDT by bird4four4
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To: bird4four4

My guess is that Roberts the was only one at the firm with experience of arguing cases before the highest court in the land.


31 posted on 08/04/2005 9:44:13 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Paraclete

We'll know real quick so far as this topic goes. The Supreme Court will be hearing the challenge to Don't Ask Don't Tell next session.


32 posted on 08/04/2005 9:45:55 AM PDT by AntiGuv (reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away)
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To: conservativecorner
It would seem that in defending John Roberts involvement in this case, many FReepers are either forgetting or overlooking the facts.

After various Colorado municipalities passed ordinances banning discrimination based on sexual orientation in housing, employment, education, public accommodations, health and welfare services, and other transactions and activities, Colorado voters adopted by statewide referendum "Amendment 2" to the State Constitution, which precludes all legislative, executive, or judicial action at any level of state or local government designed to protect the status of persons based on their "homosexual, lesbian or bisexual orientation, conduct, practices or relationships." Respondents, who include aggrieved homosexuals and municipalities, commenced this litigation in state court against petitioner state parties to declare Amendment 2 invalid and enjoin its enforcement. The trial court's grant of a preliminary injunction was sustained by the Colorado Supreme Court, which held that Amendment 2 was subject to strict scrutiny under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment because it infringed the fundamental right of gays and lesbians to participate in the political process. On remand, the trial court found that the Amendment failed to satisfy strict scrutiny. It enjoined Amendment 2's enforcement, and the State Supreme Court affirmed.

The people of Colorado voted down special rights for homosexuals. The courts overturned the vote of the people of Colorado. IMHO, that is unconstitutional.

33 posted on 08/04/2005 9:46:25 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: bird4four4

When a firm works pro-bono, they do not get paid by the client. However, if they win the case, the losing party often myst pay the legal fees of the case; this is especially true when suing the govt.. The firm was paid by the state govt. for expenses (including lawyer fees).


34 posted on 08/04/2005 9:46:51 AM PDT by reallygone
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To: perez24
Why do I have the suspicion that this is an attempt to get conservatives to oppose the nomination?

1. Because it is.

2. When leftists start pointing this out, simply turn right around and say, "Then this means he isn't a rabid conservative like liberals have insisted and you oppose him merely because you hate President Bush."

35 posted on 08/04/2005 9:47:00 AM PDT by krazyrep
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To: brooklyn dave
Yes, the dobsonites will scream over this one.

Actually, the folks who will be upset here are the folks who give a d##n about whether judges should just make up rights and put them in the Constitution. The Romer case was one of the extreme acts of judicial activism by the Supremes in the past 50 years. Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas dissented to the decision.

36 posted on 08/04/2005 9:47:52 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: gopwinsin04

The pushers of this line do not understand what really good lawyers do. It is not about personal philosophy, it is not about religious philosophy, it is not about utopian ambitions you want to use "the law" to achieve. It's about the case - what does the law say, what does the law require, what is the extent and the limits of the applicability of the law, what is possible to expect under the law and what is not. Those are the questions that lawyers working on appeals pour over and disect - not social philosophy.


37 posted on 08/04/2005 9:48:06 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: sharkhawk
You work in a law office and are the acknowledged expert on Supreme Court arguments. A colleague asks you to look over their briefs. You expect to continue working at the firm.

I can assure you that the 'acknowledged expert on supreme court arguments' at a firm is in no danger of losing his job over a principled refusal to do pro-bono work on a horrible constitutional precedent.

38 posted on 08/04/2005 9:50:37 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Reagan Man
It would seem that in defending John Roberts involvement in this case, many FReepers are either forgetting or overlooking the facts.

You are right - many are.

One of the upteen other threads on this subject had more details regarding this. the argument had more to do with the specific wording of the amendment, rather than the issue of homosexual rights (or whatever).

Improperly worded amendments are worth about as much as unconstitutional ones. Just because you agree with a particular amendment does not mean it can not be struck down for legitimate reasons.

39 posted on 08/04/2005 9:50:49 AM PDT by Gabz (Smoking ban supporters are in favor of the Kelo ruling.)
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To: Wuli

Like someone already said, this sounds like a friendly gesture to a buddy at the firm, not a lot more.


40 posted on 08/04/2005 9:51:45 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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