Posted on 08/03/2005 10:47:14 PM PDT by churchillbuff
A city in east-central Ohio in September will celebrate Army Gen. William T. Sherman and the 125th anniversary of his ``War is hell'' speech.
The events will be Sept. 23-25, mostly in Lancaster in Fairfield County, the birth place of the Union Civil War general who marched in 1864 from Atlanta to Savannah through the heart of the Confederacy.
The celebration will include nationally recognized scholars and authors and hundreds of re-enactors portraying notable Ohioans and key Civil War figures. There will be a Civil War tea and fashion show and history walks featuring a Civil War encampment.
There will also be a Sept. 23 opening dinner at the Franklin Park Conservatory in Columbus. The speaker will be Dr. Richard McMurry, a Civil War author and historian. Re-enactors will portray Sherman and Ohio's own President Rutherford B. Hayes.
Sherman (1820-1891) delivered his famous speech on Aug. 11, 1880, at the Civil War Soldiers' Reunion at the Ohio State Fairgrounds (now the Columbus Park Conservatory).
``The war is away back in the past and you can tell what books cannot. When you talk, you come down to practical realities, just as they happened.... There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but boys, it is all hell. You can bear this warning voice to generations yet to come. I look upon war with horror; but if it has to come, I am here,'' Sherman told 10,000 Civil War veterans.
Sherman's birthplace in Lancaster is a museum run by the Fairfield Heritage Association.
For more information, contact the association at 105 E. Wheeling St., Lancaster, OH 43130, 740-654-9923. The Internet site is www.lancaster-oh.com/Sherman.
General Sherman and the Union Army were in their own country, the United States of America. Sherman & U.S. forces returned to their home states once totally defeating those in rebellion.
Such a rebellion from the same geographic source shall never be witnessed in this nation again.
Because he humiliated them.
And there will be payback after the Jihadis get finished nuking the North.
BUMP
Sherman would be tried for war crimes in today's world. The majority of plantations were already in ruins, with only the women and children and ex-slaves subsisting on the land. (Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation having freed only the slaves in the Confederate States, while Mrs. Grant kept her household slaves until well after the war.) "Gone with the Wind" was not fictional in depicting the circumstances in the South. And by the way, Southerners have not forgotten and will never forget. The scars from the cruelty of the dishonorable US government are embedded in the soul of the South.
Sherman played rough, but that brought the end of the bloodshed quicker. Sherman also did a favor for all time in showing the the rich man's rebellion to protect slavery wasn't worth the hardship incurred in continuing the fight. "Lost Cause" diehards need to see that the South as a whole gave up the fight when Sherman put them to the test. If the cause wasn't that important to the people who quit on it, why falsely glorify it today? When Sherman showed the price that must be paid for "independence", the rebellious faction in the South decided that the "noble cause" wasn't worth the price. And thus, Sherman freed the ordinary people of the South from a future tyranny of the slaveowning minority. So both as a Southerner and as an American, I feel gratitude toward Sherman and his army.
What caused the ruin to the plantations if the Northern armies had not passed through the areas?
...while Mrs. Grant kept her household slaves until well after the war.
How could that be possible when Missouri amended her Constitution to emancipate all slaves in January 1865?
"Gone with the Wind" was not fictional in depicting the circumstances in the South.
So there was a Tara? And Scarlet O'Hara was a real person?
What law of war required that?
Why?
Sherman might have been in nominal command since he was the supreme western commander, but in 1864 he and his attention was centered in Georgia. But if Cherokee county North Carolina is the area in question, I have to say that the story of federal cavalry moving through is plausible. They were in Polk and Bradley counties in Tennessee just across the border on garrison duty. There was an important railroad passing through the area so there was always Feds in the area. Gatewood's rebel bushwhackers were operating in the North Georgia mountains nearby and there were many other criminal bands in the mountains of nominal allegiance to either side. Given that atrocities were common in that part of the world in 1864 plus the fact that 19th century Indians often suffered abuse even without a Civil War going on, I can see how that the incident that Stand Watie describes on this thread could happen.
>>> Maybe General Sherman should have marched to Atlanta, congratulated the Confederates for starting the Civil War, while drinking tea with lemon.
Lincoln started the Civil War, sonny.
>> Why?
Because he was a war criminal.
Very true.
We are always told this entire argument, the version from the neo-confederate side is about preserving "heritage" - some heritage.
Your nonstop verbal tirades truly do represent the hidden views of the your like minded, modern day rebel comrades. They needed a front man.
Each typed rage from you weakens the nation.
Fine, just post to this thread again--or start a new one--when you're ready.
Another leading member of 'The Civil War History Spin Club' has spoken, or should we say has 'spun' another tall tail?
Was old Abe the seditionist ringleader of the frenzied South Carolina mob which bombed that United States fort?
Here's the reaction to Sherman's army moving through the hamlet of Red Clay on the Tennessee/Georgia border as recorded by Union soldier Charles Partridge of the 96th Illinois infantry:
"The Union citizens were quite demonstrative, some of them even bringing out flags, which had doubtless been hidden for at least three years. Women swung their bonnets and men hurrahed for the Yankees and the Union. manifesting great delight..."
There was a significant element who saw Sherman and his troops as liberators restoring the rightful government that they never wished to leave.
You're free with that word. Criminal would reqire breaking laws. What laws did Sherman break?
Never say NEVER.....:)
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