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As the person involved in this story, I thought you all might like to see how wrong you were in your assumptions about this case. This was never, from my standpoint or the standpoint of the school district, about someone 'objecting to" "theatening to sue" "being offended by" the bench, nor am I a Communist, liberal, athiest or any of the other unfortunate epithets directed at me.

I am just a citizen trying to raise a question of my elected officials, help keep my school district out of trouble, and prevent my tax dollars being wasted.

1 posted on 08/02/2005 11:49:32 AM PDT by THE person involved
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Why would this bench be any different than one where it says "Fred loves you."?......There are lots of people named Jesus......


2 posted on 08/02/2005 11:52:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? GOOOOGLE your own name. Want to have fun? GOOOOGLE your neighbor's......)
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Do you have a direct link?

Thanks


3 posted on 08/02/2005 11:55:51 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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If this was trying to be resolved quietly, Mr Troll, how did the press and Atheists find out about it?
You fit in well at CNN.


5 posted on 08/02/2005 11:57:08 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (mainstream extremist (Ha))
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What's the matter? Can't get all the worms back in the can?

Picking at the scab will make it bleed. You are a scab-picker. your CNN bias has not left you and you knew that the ACLU and other Communist organizations would bear this cross for you. ALL PUN INTENDED.

And you come here to "explain" yourself?

7 posted on 08/02/2005 11:57:44 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is the Religion of Peace, they should FIRE their PR guy!)
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Was the bench placed on the school grounds by an act of congress? No.

Does the bench compel anyone to subscribe to a particular religious belief? No.

Was the content of the message developed and placed on the bench and funded by a party other than the school and/or school district? Yes.

Are other benches allowed on the school grounds with other messages, with content that is developed by someone other than the school and/or school district? Yes.

Welcome to Free Republic.

8 posted on 08/02/2005 12:04:23 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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......... Bernknopf said he never intended to take the matter to court and plans to take no further action. ..............

Any future challenge to the bench, he said, could be left to constitutional experts.

He got it going by providing the needed publicity to bring it to the attention of the activists, now it's up to someone else to actually bring suit.

9 posted on 08/02/2005 12:06:12 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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Take a walk on wet cement and claim that you were just checking the quality of the stuff - typical for a Clinton News Networker.

Must be a satisfying job to be a paragon of "moral clarity" and a do-gooder eager to protect us from any possible harm that an acknowledgement of religiosity might cause.

Why don't you do some real good and question liberal judges that keep putting pedophiles on the strrets to abuse and mutilate our kids? Or don't you think that they are as potentially harmful as a "Jesus Love You" statement?

10 posted on 08/02/2005 12:08:55 PM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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asswipe


11 posted on 08/02/2005 12:10:51 PM PDT by doodad
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"I am just a citizen trying to raise a question of my elected officials, help keep my school district out of trouble, and prevent my tax dollars being wasted."

Signing in from Roswell, Georgia, I'd appreciate it if you'd find something else to do and quit wasting my state tax dollars - and our time.


12 posted on 08/02/2005 12:12:58 PM PDT by peacebaby (Hot town, summer in the city. Back of my neck getting dirty and gritty.)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com so... give the athiest's a bench that says NOBODY LOVES YOU!!!
14 posted on 08/02/2005 12:14:43 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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He sent a letter to school officials asking them to investigate whether it violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, which calls for separation of church and state.

BS

"What if the Atlanta Freethought Society wanted to put up a bench that said, 'There is no God?'" Buckner added

That would be intolerant. A bench that says "Jesus loves you" does not imply anything against anyone.

15 posted on 08/02/2005 12:15:55 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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Mr. Bernknopf, I have years of experience in the PTA for two Atlanta schools. If you really wanted to help your school district, you could work to insure the playgrounds are safe, the bathrooms are clean, the PTA is supported.

Why, you could even volunteer in the library or in the office to relieve the teachers who, I am sure, work very hard for the little money they earn.


18 posted on 08/02/2005 12:20:16 PM PDT by peacebaby (Hot town, summer in the city. Back of my neck getting dirty and gritty.)
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I can't think of any worse public description than being called a former CNN producer. Poor judgment seems to be your way of life.


22 posted on 08/02/2005 12:23:09 PM PDT by rabidralph
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As the person involved in this story, I thought you all might like to see how wrong you were in your assumptions about this case.

This was the first statement on the thread. It seems the first person making ASSumptions about people being wrong in their assumptions was you. What wrong assumptions have all of us around here made about the case? I think from reading the article I learned that the bench was privately funded and the message chosen by someone other than school or district personnel. Based on my reading of the article, I posted 4 questions that should have been adequate to satisfy you that there is no problem with the bench.

34 posted on 08/02/2005 12:32:31 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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"I certainly never had any interest in filing a complaint or filing a lawsuit," he said. "Obviously, I thought it was questionable."

Be honest. Are you hoping someone else picks up the ball and runs with it?

You need to realize that everyday folks are getting real, real tired of being made to feel like they have to walk on eggshells due to their faith. The backlash has already started.

37 posted on 08/02/2005 12:33:22 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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Oh B/S!! Get a life.


41 posted on 08/02/2005 12:37:07 PM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: Eaker; Judith Anne; netmilsmom; Devil_Anse; T Minus Four; ~Kim4VRWC's~; retrokitten; Krodg; ...

It's THE story of the week. No, the year. We need constant updates (accompanied by severe chastisement, of course) from now until 2006.


48 posted on 08/02/2005 12:43:04 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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Now that attention has been brought to this burning issue, someone is sure to step up and ensure that our constitutionally guaranteed right to freedom from religion will be upheld.

As "Smyrna resident Ed Buckner, secretary of the local chapter of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said the bench message clearly violates state and federal Supreme Court law." so there you have it. "Supreme Court Law" has been violated!

56 posted on 08/02/2005 12:49:59 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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On a lighter note: How's Bobbie Batista doing these days?


59 posted on 08/02/2005 12:54:31 PM PDT by rabidralph
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local just damn


61 posted on 08/02/2005 12:57:05 PM PDT by doodad
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