Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12

Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

[LongViewSC]

"If PVDS really did say, "no body, no crime", why would they dispose of the body next door? Searching the neighbors yard is a waste of time." I would not rule it out. I hear what you are saying, but PVDS was making that statement when he assumed this case would be swept under the rug. He might have burried her close to home figuring no real search would be done.

[Trust but Verify]

Then I have a better criminal mind than he does. No way do you dispose of the evidence near your home.

[maggief]

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1117704041122600.xml&coll=2

Missing girl's family in Aruba
Police say three men gave teen ride but they aren't considered suspects
Thursday, June 02, 2005
HANNAH WOLFSON
News staff writer

Three Aruban men who say they dropped a missing Mountain Brook woman off at her hotel after midnight Sunday are not suspects in her disappearance, according to police there.

Authorities have few leads in the case of Natalee Ann Holloway, 18, who didn't return from a trip to the Caribbean island with fellow Mountain Brook High School graduates.

"We've got nothing yet," said Detective Angelo Anthony with the police department in Noord, near where the group was staying. He said no one has been arrested and that Holloway's parents were unable to spot her on a surveillance tape from the Holiday Inn.

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[Toespi]

"I know a lot of nice people who go on those unmentionable vacations and I wonder if they know what goes on behind the scenes. I think that people wanting to go to these beautiful places with blue water and wonderful beaches ought to know that there are a lot of sexual predators out there, and if they aren't after sex, well it is drugs or your money."

Sounds like "Anywhere,USA" to me. Of course, if it happened in the US the 17 year old suspect would be out on bail, his face would be blurred in media shots, we wouldn't know his name let alone his address and anyone showing up at his parents residence would be arrested and of course let's not forget the defamation of character lawsuits that would eventually be filed by the suspect's family.

[LongViewSC]

Again what you say seems to make sense, but look at all the killers that have done that in the past. Sometimes they even hide the victims in the house / crawl space, etc. Remember PVDS did not expect anyone to search his place... he is an important judge. I agree it is a remote possibility, but I would like to see the PVDS property searched again (by real searchers). At least it will make him feel the pain of the light/ cameras again.

[Trust but Verify]

Or the libel suits against websites.

[TexKat]

Under Arubian law is it possible to get a search warrant for PVS's property? After searching everywhere else, it seems there would be probable cause.

I believe the ALE could if they wanted to Carolinamom.

[sodpoodle]

If PVDS really did say, "no body, no crime", why would they dispose of the body next door?
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Perhaps PVDS said "no DEAD body, No crime" Perhaps she was abducted. The "sex slave trade" is so far removed from most of our "normal" daily lives, we cannot relate to the possibility that a normal young woman like Natalee could have fallen into such a scenario.

Then again, think "Elizabeth Smart" right here in Utah.

just my 2cents - now I'll mosy back to the cruise ship.

sp

[Toespi]

Certainly a plethora of wealth for an energetic lawyer.

[Trust but Verify]

now I'll mosy back to the cruise ship.

LOL! See you there!

[LongViewSC]

Perhaps she was abducted. The "sex slave trade" Assuming that Natalee was sold to sex traders... I wonder if the million dollar reward is enough to get her back alive.

[HeraThera]

Please explain what you mean! I am intrigued but I don't understand your point.

[justche]

disappearance/death/abduction is not quid pro quo. NO one deserves death/disappearance for living life. Those responsible must pay and pay harshly.

Very well said.

[gopheraj]

Thank you.

[sodpoodle]

I wonder if the million dollar reward is enough to get her back alive.
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I have no idea what kind(s) of incentives would influence that criminal enterprise. I am assuming that Joran participated in an abduction to settle gambling debts - there cannot possibly be any other reason than "money" - so if that's the motive - how much money does he owe the casinos? Particularly since his father was not going to become a judge and able to put "fixes" in.

Or have I been watching too many George Raft movies?
sp

[MAWG]

You're very welcome. I'm a Texan too.

[presently no screen name]

Your post #117 - we are holding a cordial discussion,


Your post #110 Your post Yes, we musn't get it the way of all the breaking news. /sarcasm

Your post #103 She's gone. With that settled, you can go and resume your normal daily activities

Cordial Discussion?

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Or have I been watching too many George Raft movies? Your theory could be correct, but I believe the mostly likely case is the boys (and possibly PVDS and others) gang raped and killer her. I am afraid that a million dollars might not be enough if she was shipped to Saudi Arabia. What's a million dollars to someone with billions? In any case PVDS and the boys need to pay for what they have done.

[TexKat]

From SM:

EquuSearch searches Neighbor’s Property Next To Van Der Sloot House

[Trust but Verify]

I know I'm being cordial, I'm not so sure about the ones who want me banned for daring to post on here. Some of the regulars have even stated it's a slow news day. Just think of me as the person who is trying to keep this thread fresh on a slow day.

See how helpful I can be?