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Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat
My friend, anything makes more sence than Croes! LOL!
But, yes, I do think maggief's theory has merit. . .
EquuSearch searches Neighbor’s Property Next To Van Der Sloot House
by Scared Monkeys
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1359
The Texas EquuSearch team got permission from Paul Van der Sloot’s neighbor to search the property adjacent to the Van der Sloot home. Since the neighbor had been away on vacation prior to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, his property was considered a prime possibility as a site of interest. The property would have had no one home and available to access as the owner was away. The search and rescue dog teams were used as well as the ground penetrating units used to pick up an anomalies under the surface and methane detection probes. The dog teams picked up no hits; however, all the information from the GPR’s have not yet been analyzed.
Please see the many pictures of the neighbors property and the Van der Sloot residence. Pictured below: The white house belongs to the Van der Sloot’s neighbor who allowed the search of his property. The yellowish home with wall is the Van der Sloot’s.
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PLEASE NOTE: THERE ARE A TON OF PHOTOS ON THAT PAGE LINKED ABOVE.
"Dutch behavioral specialists will interview 17-year-old Joran van der Sloot
My guess is that this is in case JVDS is found guilty. They will determine that what he did was not really his fault, but was due to his being weaned too early or some such rubbish."
I had that same thought today. They are probably working on the "excitable boy - Warren Zevon" defense... so that they can get him out ASAP.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF THESE WERE ALREADY POSTED . . .
Natalee Holloway; Updates August 2, 2005
by Scared Monkeys
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1362
From the AP; Behavior Specialists Question Dutch Suspect in Disappearance of Missing U.S. Teen in Aruba
Behavioral specialists on Tuesday questioned a young Dutch suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, and a volunteer group conducted a final search of a landfill where a witness claimed to have seen men dumping a female body.
The behavior specialists from the Netherlands questioned Joran van der Sloot to observe his body language and look for inconsistencies in his account of what happened the night Holloway, 18, disappeared, police spokesman Edwin Comenencia said.
From Scared Monkeys: Final Push at the landfill.
Memebers from EquuSearch went once again to the landfill today armed with equipment to continue the search based upon witness leads.
I am curious, how do you know about who has multiple accounts?
"My first thought about the "missing shoes" of Joran.... the only reason to "lose" the shoes would be if he had been walking in mud or something that would lead investigators to where he ACTUALLY had been that night... mud or a substance that would give him away... such as mud or substances from a landfill, a mine, a swampy area etc..."
Might have had blood on them or they might have come of when he was dragging Natalee into water. I agree the shoes could be a good piece of evidence.
SM: http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=60234&highlight=#60234
NativeLingo
Mimo, I'm sure that in the beginning some people might have thought that this could have been an insurance scam or something like that....but not anymore....
When I said "set-up" I didn't mean either by the US or by Aruba/Netherlands.....I'm thinking more of a set-up by "others"....people who do NOT want either the DEA or the FOL to have bases on Aruba or the other Netherlands Anitlles....
"People" who would go out of their ways to protect their intrests.....
"People", who could cook up a major diplomatic bru-ha-ha betweem the Netherlands and the US with only one goal in mind......
the removal of DEA and the FOL.......
I don't care about "impure threads" and I don't feel uncordial to you. You are just tiresome, that's all, with your posting about "personal responsibility" and your desire that we all just close up this thread. You don't have to be here you know. And that is not said in any hostile way. It is a fact and an observation.
SM: http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=60349&highlight=#60349
sunmoonstars
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:35 pm
Court Tv Tuesday
Paul Reynolds:
The landfill search is a massive effort
So far, witness seems credible
I am not sure the pond search has been completed. I still see water in the pond. Even though we are being told it is completed, I have some concerns about that cause there is still quite a lot of water. I would think it would make sense to remove the rest of it.
Witnesses are coming forward, partly because of the reward, partly because of the new people in charge.
Change in investigators is giving us hope
sunmoonstars
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:22 pm
Court Tv Tuesday
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=60289&highlight=#60289
Susan Candiotti:
Just finished 9 hours of interrogating Joran
Had the right to have attorney there
FBI was there observing
Dutch team took videotape and audio tape with them to Quantico
Jossy:
Turns 18 on Saturday
Parents can only visit once a week, other minor things
They have been able to inform him of what is going on in the outside world
As of Saturday, he will questioned as an adult
Apparently Joran told the police that on the night Nat disappeared, he lost the tennis shoes and walked home.
We also have another picture of Joran with boots on that night
Candiotti:
Lead investigator has serious questions if he could have walked home that night
Troubled by number of versions given of what he did that night
One version, he says he was at the beach
Fishermen say they saw nobody at the beach
According to police, not a new witness..was brought to them a few days after Nat disappeared
Police say they went and checked out the landfill and the tag number
Jossy: At the pond, there is a lot of water...has not been drained completely. A lot of land around the pond hasn't been searched either.
I posted it here and now I can't remember: didn't it say the tape was broken or turned off? Suggesting premediation. A crime that's been done before, perhaps. But went wrong this time.
No retration from Jossy. He's connected. His bro, Luis Emilio, owns a shipping company. Wonder what they transport...things that make ya go hmmm, hmm, hmmm...
If PVDS really did say, "no body, no crime", why would they dispose of the body next door? Searching the neighbors yard is a waste of time.
I'm all about the facts. If facts are all that's allowed, we wouldn't need 12 threads, would we? We could cover the known facts in about two paragraphs.
SM: http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=59587&highlight=#59587
Kylie222
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:21 pm
Another Robert Cooke update:
It's hard to believe that people are questioning where TES searches or does not search. The goal is searching for a missing person is to search areas for evidence. If that area is covered well and nothing is found that's not a bad thing. You can mark off that place and move on.
Natalee may not be in the land fill but we had a witness who said he saw something and we believed it was worth checking. I assure you I did not risk my health for something I didn't think was worth doing.
As far as the dogs go. They are bought out in the early morning and late afternoon. When they aren't working they are kept in an air conditioned vehicle. Dogs can only work well when it's cool which doesn't happen much in Aruba. Our K9 leader this time has 29 years of experience and his found human remains many times with his dogs. Yes they can tell the difference between animal and human waist.
I didn't see Dr. Baden in Aruba. Maybe he should volunteer his time there and help find Natalee.
If Natalee is in the ocean hopefully she will turn up someday. The current are very rough and several divers checked as many areas as they could last month.
Robert
Beth would know.....if there was in fact no gaps, then the schoolmaster is part of a conspiracy on the face of it or was lied to by someone.....likely AVDS (who works at this school), PVDS or van der straaaten or some other cop or even the hotel........I'm not questioning if there are gaps NOW......I'm questioning if there were actually gaps when Beth viewed it in the first day ir two.
Ignore her CG, all she wants to do is argue and disrupt. That has been obvious for a LONG time. The Mod told her to cut it out already and she hasn't stopped. As long as she can disrupt, she's happy. She doesn't give two s**ts about Natalee.
The reasoning behind that might be to eliminate the possibility. Tim and crew use the term "clearing the area."
It narrows the possibilities.
Everything appears to be a waste of time! If NH is on Aruba, they've passed her already. At least once. I think the SM poster has it right about Dave Holloway. None of the H/T group are dummies. It must be horrible to keep mum like they have. I can almost feel Beth silently screaming to the cosmos for help.
Anyone know what happened on Catherine Crier? I heard an actual dead air space on the way home just now and ref to a break.
Everyone, let's keep extrapolating what we KNOW. Not getting of topic, but there must be some merit in some what-ifing. Some time ago I recall it said that the security guards should be called again, but yet isn't it true they no longer worked for HI at the time NH disappeared? Perhaps a relative did?
Well, it was suggested (though I do not know how TES verified the it) that when the ALE (etc.) did do the search of the VDS property, the police chief Van Der Straaten named some areas off limits. It is those areas that are of interest to the TES team . . . I think that the off limit areas are close to the neighbor's property, so the dogs, etc., can get a hit.
Post 209 & 210 are sunmoonstars transcripts of CourtTv, though I am not sure if they are the Catherine Crier show . . .
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