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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: stopem

Hey Stopem,
If jvds got bucked on in jail, my hat's off to the one who administered the A-whipping. If not, a possible defense strategy to garner sympathy for this 6'4" POS.

I hope it was the (AWing) and may he receive many more during his vacation in jail.
Behold A Pale Rider,
NSNR


2,241 posted on 08/07/2005 8:12:26 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Like you, I learned of Espirit de Corps in the military, but it is not a uniquely military concept.....our national Espirit de Corps is in play and at some risk here, as you posted,

“the common spirit existing in the members of a group and inspiring enthusiasm, devotion and strong regard for the honor of the group.”


2,242 posted on 08/07/2005 8:16:15 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

maybe they threw TJ in the pokey for an overnite?


2,243 posted on 08/07/2005 8:18:41 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: penowa

What is tin foilish is not those things, it is the suspicion that Paulus was responsible for the "paperwork slip" and therefore in cahoots with the mafia.

That would explain alot. And from my experience, when something "explains alot" it is usually tin foilish.


2,244 posted on 08/07/2005 8:20:17 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: maggief

There was an old post on SM some time ago about his psych history and the hints that his problems were way bad.

She says maybe when asked if he was a sociopath...Ii think she meant yes.


2,245 posted on 08/07/2005 8:21:55 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Hopefully the residents of the adult area where he is going next will feel the same way about this perp. And maybe the beating will get a little more serious in nature?

BUT if he started it all in juvenile area than that proves all the talk of his temper and his personality. And it proves he is starting to crack!

Hmmmm Papa VDS couldn't save his little sonny boy? (sarcasm)


2,246 posted on 08/07/2005 8:23:34 AM PDT by stopem
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bttt


2,247 posted on 08/07/2005 8:24:00 AM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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To: looney tune

Bookmark Bump!


2,248 posted on 08/07/2005 8:24:44 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I don't think people are going to quit traveling anywhere on account of this. Foreign tourists get killed here. People want to see the world.

And to suggest as upthread someone did, that we should all act more homogeneous is disturbing.


2,249 posted on 08/07/2005 8:28:31 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

I recall the old post(s).

I found it interesting, if true, that AvdS received counseling due to JvdS's problems.


2,250 posted on 08/07/2005 8:29:04 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: cajungirl

If PVDS' approved the paperwork, etc. for Posner, it was on the orders of whoever he worked for in the gov't, not something he took it upon himself to do on his own. The Aruban gov't has looked the other way on casino licensing years before the VDS arrived on the island. As long as the $ rolls in, the construction continues to provide work to keep the natives quiet, and all the proper elected officials and their surrogates get their cut under the table, it's "one happy island."


2,251 posted on 08/07/2005 8:30:41 AM PDT by penowa
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To: penowa

yep. But if acted on his own, his cut might be his lines of credit.

Interesting that Joran got slugged. I said to my husband this morning, that this has gotten so bad with the struggle for the truth versus the struggle to keep it down, that someone was going to die.

I had the idea that Joran might not survive prison.


2,252 posted on 08/07/2005 8:33:52 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

SM:

From MSNBC news:

Friends of vander sloots saying he had bruises on his face and they showed up after interrogations. Police say the bruises came from a fight while in jail. He was hurt but is ok. (whatever that means) He has not been removed or moved from where he's at as a result.


2,253 posted on 08/07/2005 8:37:04 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: cajungirl

is THIS what disturbs you?

"I would hope there would be more homogenity/loyalty as Americans. We should not travel or put one cent into Aruba's economy based on their actions and corrupt system."

I guess it'll REALLY disturb you if/when Beth says it.

aruba will pay the piper.


2,254 posted on 08/07/2005 8:40:51 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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SM:


Edited to add: this occured a few days ago.


2,255 posted on 08/07/2005 8:41:35 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: hershey
Does anyone think if a Van der Sloot daughter had disappeared in like circumstances, and if someone without influence were guilty, that things would be different?

I am guessing that if the roles were reversed, and Joran had disappeared with some Mountain Brooke students being the last ones to see him....

The same laws and legal rules they pull out of their a-...er, I mean, air...Imagine what they could come up with if they wanted to KEEP someone in jail, or if they wanted to interogate someone...

Also, last night J. Masur's son was on Fox and he said his sources say Joran has started talking, so he must have gotten tired of holding his hands over his ears. Plus, he's now 18 and there will be no more daily visits from Papa. He's an adult and different rules apply.

I think the role that Jossy and Tito and other Aruban media and spokespeople play is CHATTER. Just keep the chatter going while the days go by. Throw out some new bit of disinformation that will create chatter until tomorrow night's prime time news shows.

2,256 posted on 08/07/2005 8:50:19 AM PDT by gg188
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

What is your point?


2,257 posted on 08/07/2005 8:51:34 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Yaelle; stlnative

Thanks for the Beth address in Aruba and postal rates.


2,258 posted on 08/07/2005 8:56:33 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: cajungirl
Interesting that Joran got slugged.

Hmmm...
Was it because he's talking, or because he won't?

2,259 posted on 08/07/2005 9:05:20 AM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady

Or being initiated into the jail culture.

I think Joran probably had a bad birthday all round.


2,260 posted on 08/07/2005 9:15:49 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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