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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: Sunshine55
I think so, well at least a family resemblance. Bloggers saying that the dreadlock pic is PVDS son...??????
2,081 posted on 08/06/2005 9:26:55 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: pamlet

Yeah and a Dutch accent,,as a teen I was wild for boys with accents. I met a kid from Rhodesia {olden days} and he was a Brit,,the accent drove me all the way almost to second base.


2,082 posted on 08/06/2005 9:28:56 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Sunshine55

I think I have seen them,,two of them with questions if they are the same guy.


2,083 posted on 08/06/2005 9:30:05 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Dark Skies

That is one of him. There is a close up too.


2,084 posted on 08/06/2005 9:30:47 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Sunshine55

Lorenzo has the same wide set eyes that paulus has,,I wish we could do a side by side of Paulus and Lorenzo. And the prominent forehead.


2,085 posted on 08/06/2005 9:34:44 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: stopem

Yes, that is a wise plan. Just wish they had done this in the beginning.

One thing that's been on my mind is that with all the reporters that have been on that island none seem to have done any heavy investigating. Greta has done a good job on reporting on many things, but even she has come up short, IMO.

Why didn't any reporters follow the suspects during the days while all were free before their arrests and supposedly being watched by the ALE? They could have at least created a timeline of the suspects movements which could be very helpful now.

Why are the reporters not tailing PVDS and the Kalpoes now? Their every move should be watched.

Maybe it's a lack of manpower. Or restrictions from the ALE. Or maybe my expectations of investigative reporting are too high.



2,086 posted on 08/06/2005 9:37:49 AM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Sunshine55

I just read all the ocmments on that site and that may not be Lorenzo,,many say it is another guy!!!! Neither may be Lorenzo.

So we may be barking up the wrong tree.


2,087 posted on 08/06/2005 9:41:53 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

AIB,
During my upbringing era,(Cromagnon) they were called (Hammers)(Women) Gotta go whip a T-Rex for dinner.
Alley Oop The Man,
NSNR


2,088 posted on 08/06/2005 9:54:47 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: All

I just wanted to repost texasbluebell's Post #1933.




I'm bringing this back from the first Natalee thread.

Sorry, I don't know who posted it, nor do I have the link, it has just been saved all this time in my mailbox.

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"HUMAN TRAFFICKING (SLAVERY) - Legislative Update - (up to 900,000 victims each yr; mostly children)"

Excerpt:

Worldwide news reports say bartenders from Cancun to Aruba to Jamaica regularly spike the drinks of unsuspecting women with drugs such as Rohypnol (roofies) and GHB (Liquid Extacy) for the purpose of "date-rape,"

but reports also indicate the increasing use of narcotics to place women in a submissive state to move them into position for transportation to Caribbean Island and South American brothels for indefinite periods for use as drugged prostitutes in known white slavery rings.

Late at night, Aruba’s California lighthouse easily serves as a beacon to guide boats to the deserted beach to quickly drop off and pick up narcotics--

but news show guests intimated that submissive females, drugged by bartenders or other patrons at a popular club like Carlos and Charlie’s could be victims of sexual transport.

"Spotters," paid to watch for attractive women on vacation as potential sex slaves guide them into a bar to be drugged and then out into a waiting car and boat for transportation to mainland or island bordellos.



1,933 posted on 08/05/2005 10:12:26 PM CDT by texasbluebell


2,089 posted on 08/06/2005 10:05:53 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: TexKat; All
Could you please post the mailing address for sending mail to Beth Twitty on Aruba?
2,090 posted on 08/06/2005 10:08:42 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: cajungirl
I believe I read that this Lorenzo guy's dad might be PVDS's son or a VW dealer's son in Aruba, who committed suicide?? Lorenzo is said to live in the largest house on the island. Might be BS (trying to impress the ladies or something) A side by side comparison of PVDS and this guy would be interesting, but I'm HTML challenged. :o(
2,091 posted on 08/06/2005 10:09:56 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: Abigail Adams

RE: ATM activity of PVDS in the early morning hours that NH disappeared, is it possible it was a deposit being made?


2,092 posted on 08/06/2005 10:10:13 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: pnz1

Why would PVDS do that? Who would he be paying off? Possibly paying someone to take a body off his hands or Hush money? I guess anything is possible at this point!


2,093 posted on 08/06/2005 10:13:32 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

No, I wondered if PVDS (or someone else)was making a deposit into his account.


2,094 posted on 08/06/2005 10:16:02 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

*Has ATM activity been confirmed or is it a rumor at this point?


2,095 posted on 08/06/2005 10:19:42 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: Abigail Adams
"Spotters," paid to watch for attractive women on vacation as potential sex slaves guide them into a bar to be drugged and then out into a waiting car and boat for transportation to mainland or island bordellos. "

Dear Lord, I wish this to be the case! Sure beats the other scenario! That explains why the T&H's are printing up fliers in other languages and disbursing them on the mainland. Too bad this wasn't done weeks ago!

2,096 posted on 08/06/2005 10:20:12 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: pnz1

Oh, sorry.... Hush money then, paid to keep him & his son quiet. Can't ALE get a warrant to check his bank records?? Police work 101, I would think.


2,097 posted on 08/06/2005 10:22:55 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

BHT said on one of the shows that they are going to produce spanish-spoken commercials to show on the neighboring islands.


2,098 posted on 08/06/2005 10:26:49 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
potential sex slaves

From all I have heard, Nat, at 18, was too long in the tooth to have much cash value as a sex slave. However, if Jurine procured her for someone on the island...

There have been rumors of this kind of behavior on his part.

2,099 posted on 08/06/2005 10:27:59 AM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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To: Abigail Adams

"Worldwide news reports say bartenders from Cancun to Aruba to Jamaica regularly spike the drinks of unsuspecting women with drugs such as Rohypnol (roofies) and GHB (Liquid Extacy) for the purpose of "date-rape,"


wow, good to know for future vacations outside America. Memo to self, BYOB (bring your own booze to hotel room) and no drinking in touristy bars. Wonder if this info is going to hurt touristy bars now? Doubt it for the hard core boozers but for myself I'll be really cautious from now on. Look the bartender and other bar patrons over, closer.


2,100 posted on 08/06/2005 10:28:43 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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