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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Guess I exposed my non-knowledge of alcohol. Thanks for clarifying.


1,461 posted on 08/04/2005 8:51:22 PM PDT by pies
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To: pamlet

I think some know and aren't telling,,Aruba LE is very cagey and the Holloways have been muzzled by threats of abandoning the investigation.

It is secretive.


1,462 posted on 08/04/2005 8:51:27 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: justche
This happened at the end of April

I might have made that up. April, not necessarily the end of April

1,463 posted on 08/04/2005 8:52:21 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: pies

Bacardi® 151 rum

Bacardi 151 Rum is a high proof (75.5% alc/volume), dark aromatic rum produced by Bacardi. It is a form of overproof rum, which is not available in several countries due to it's excessive alcohol content.


1,464 posted on 08/04/2005 8:52:22 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: cajungirl

Exactly. A realist is not in denial.


1,465 posted on 08/04/2005 8:53:28 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Toespi

So why is she missing?
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Because an evil predator choose her for his victim.


1,466 posted on 08/04/2005 8:53:50 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Andy'smom; ruoflaw; KylaStarr; Jaded; cyborg; kcvl; TAquinas; maggief; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

Per Jossy Mansur as far as he knows the Columbian gardner is still on the island and will be summoned again in the next session. Also Mansur tells Bill O'Reilly that Joran has 5 or 6 attorneys on call now. One of which was/is an attoryney for PVDS.


1,467 posted on 08/04/2005 8:54:11 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: onyx

Guess it's allowed in Aruba, and to minors at that.


1,468 posted on 08/04/2005 8:54:42 PM PDT by pies
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To: Toespi

A clever predator and his friends trapped her on her first celebratory trip as a high school graduate.

It is not unusual for an innocent to be slaughtered. It is unusual for a slaughtered innocent to be picked apart by vultures. And I think there are those on this thread who do that.


1,469 posted on 08/04/2005 8:55:01 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: justche

Perfect ending, justche! :)


1,470 posted on 08/04/2005 8:55:31 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Toespi

" So why is she missing? "

What the heck is your point? She's missing because BAD people do BAD things to perfectly innocent and GOOD people. Natalee and her family did NOT cause this horrible tragedy, period.


1,471 posted on 08/04/2005 8:55:44 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: TexKat

And Bill remarked JVDS's cadre of lawyers reminded him of OJ's lawyers.


1,472 posted on 08/04/2005 8:56:07 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: pies


Supposed to be sold to patrons age 18 and over, but we know that younger peole are often served liquor underage, particularly in an island setting.


1,473 posted on 08/04/2005 8:57:40 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: truthluva

Well I grew up in Chicago and was MUCH more naive than my husband who grew up in Winston-Salem... While I think that rape/murder is lower in numbers in smaller cities.. it is MUCH more publicized. I knew that to be true when as a young bride I moved to Raleigh. I was AMAZED at how it seemed to be on the news.. as opposed to Chicago where you just didn't seem to hear about it.

I hope you get some sleep.... (I know for me it's better to pull my head OUT of the sand to sleep.. it gets in my mouth and makes snoring difficult... ;) ) Or you can drink Thera-Flu like I'm doing now to get rid of this nasty headache...


1,474 posted on 08/04/2005 8:58:13 PM PDT by pamlet
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Doesn't anyone except Greta think it's just a tad surealistic for a crowd of people to be disposing of a body in broad daylight while other folks are nearby and conveivably watching?

Though the landfill witness sounded creditable, this part of his story just doesn't jive.

Also, while Joran and his buddies might have been on the prowl for new conquests at C & C, I seriously doubt that it was commit homicides. More likely a roll in the hay -- or sand, since it's Aruba.

1,475 posted on 08/04/2005 8:58:18 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: onyx

Oh I realize that .. tho' she moved to the 'burbs of Birmingham when her mom remarried. I was thinking about that the other day when I heard that Beth and Jug have only been married 4 or 5 years.. it's a tough time on a girl that age.. and she adapted really well .. being involved in that cheer squad and all..


1,476 posted on 08/04/2005 9:00:35 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: onyx

Interesting that Joran went and got the shots. Perfect opportunity to have one drugged.

And Nat was said to be doing shots by one of those detectives.


1,477 posted on 08/04/2005 9:01:10 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: varina davis
Doesn't anyone except Greta think it's just a tad surealistic for a crowd of people to be disposing of a body in broad daylight while other folks are nearby and conveivably watching?

No more then three guys pretending to be a cab and going back to the hotel, or slipping a date rape drug into drinks, or any of the other things that might have happened in the last 9 weeks.

1,478 posted on 08/04/2005 9:01:40 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: varina davis

I thin it's unconscionable that IF this witness actally witnessed all he;s claimed that he didn't immediately go running to the Holiday Inn to inform Beth and Jug, since everyone on that island knew where to find the Halloway's and twitty's.


1,479 posted on 08/04/2005 9:01:58 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: cajungirl
With 151 Rum no drugs are necessary to take someone quickly into la la land.
1,480 posted on 08/04/2005 9:02:41 PM PDT by varina davis
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