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Microsoft braces for user backlash over downloads
The Journal Gazette (Ft. Wayne) | Toronto Globe and Mail ^ | 8/01/05 | Simon Avery

Posted on 08/02/2005 12:29:08 AM PDT by LibWhacker

The next time you visit the Web site of Microsoft Corp. to download some software, be prepared to let the world’s biggest software company have a look inside your computer.

In a determined strike to quell the proliferation of counterfeit software, Microsoft is now requiring that all customers coming to its Web site for upgrades and other downloads submit their computers to an electronic frisking.

If you use one of the estimated 100 million PCs running pirated software, don’t expect your upgrade. For Microsoft, the new policy is a stepped-up effort to combat the loss of billions of dollars’ worth of software sales every year to counterfeiters around the world. But in ramping up efforts to fight piracy, the Redmond, Wash.-based behemoth already finds itself fending off critics over privacy.

“It sets an extremely negative precedent,” Pam Dixon, executive director of World Privacy Forum, a non-profit public-interest research center in San Diego, said of the company’s initiative. “Microsoft is saying, ‘Before I let you do anything at all, you have to open your computer to us.’ I really object to this.”

The company will scan machines for a variety of information, including product keys or software authorization codes, operating-system version and details on the flow of data between the operating system and other hardware, such as printers.

It is access to this information that particularly upsets the privacy advocates. Dixon says the only information Microsoft needs to fight piracy is the product key and the operating-system version, and she says that Microsoft will be able to identify users uniquely based on some of the information the company collects.

“They are grabbing more information than they need to deter piracy,” she said.

If Microsoft deems a PC to be carrying contraband code, it won’t allow a user to download Microsoft programs, with the exception of security patches. But the software company – which says that more than one in five U.S. computers runs a counterfeit version of its Windows product – is not just waving a stick. It is also offering a big carrot.

Microsoft said it will give a free copy of its Windows XP to customers who unknowingly bought a counterfeit version of the operating system and who fill out a piracy report, provide proof of purchase and send Microsoft the counterfeit CDs.

Customers who cannot provide proof of purchase but file a piracy report will receive a substantial discount on a legitimate version of the operating system, said Tim Prime, a product manager in the Windows client group at Microsoft Canada Co., a subsidiary of the U.S. company.

Executives at Microsoft reject any suggestions that the move will antagonize customers with privacy concerns.

“Customers want to know whether retailers have sold them genuine software,” Prime said.

More than 40 million users agreed to have their systems scanned in a 10-month trial that began last September in several countries. The participation rate amounted to 58 percent of all visitors to the pilot Web site, far exceeding Microsoft’s expectations of just 10 percent, Prime said.

Microsoft said no personal data will be collected during the validation process, and information will remain completely anonymous. The company said it commissioned TUV-IT, an independent German security auditor, to test how well its Windows Genuine Advantage program protects customers’ data. The firm concluded that Microsoft does not collect any personal information that would allow it to identify or contact a user.

Seth Schoen, a staff technologist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil liberties group in San Francisco specializing in technology issues, agreed that Microsoft would not be able to identify customers personally through the program. But the data collected are unique to every customer, just as human fingerprints are unique, and the issue becomes how long the company holds onto the details and whether they could become personally identifying later on, he said.

Technology companies have walked a fine line for years on the issue of collecting information from consumers’ computers. Six years ago, RealNetworks Inc., whose software plays audio and video content on the Internet, released a patch for its RealJukebox program after the public learned the software was relaying personal information about users to the company.

More recently, Google Inc. created a privacy backlash when it said its free e-mail service, Gmail, would include special software that inserts ads into personal e-mails based on their content.

Clearly, Microsoft believes any risk of public-privacy concerns are worth incurring to fight a problem that has turned into an epidemic in some parts of the world.

Microsoft has been fighting counterfeit efforts for years with limited success. It says that 35 percent of the world’s computers run counterfeit software and that piracy cost the global software industry $33.7 billion in 2004.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: advantage; convictedmonopoly; counterfeit; counterfeiters; downloads; genuine; internetexploiter; microsoft; pirated; privacy; software; upgrades; userfriendly; windows
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1 posted on 08/02/2005 12:29:10 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

FWIW, I just so happened to run a Windows Update earlier this evening and after Microsoft frisked me it gave me two updated drivers it hadn't realized I needed before. =)

I'm ambivalent about this kind of thing, but if there's absolutely no personally identifying data gathered then I don't have much of a problem.


2 posted on 08/02/2005 12:42:59 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: LibWhacker


I have already been down this path, it isn't all that rough, the worst part is speaking to someone in India or wherever and then... worry about just how secure is this?

My new motherboard is now the registered one for my old software, I just don't see a need to upgrade, everything works fine. If they want to pay for shipping they can have my old one, case and all.


3 posted on 08/02/2005 12:44:07 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: LibWhacker

So, for those people foolish enough to enable Automatic Update, does this mean their systems are routinely and regularly examined by MS?


4 posted on 08/02/2005 12:52:14 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: SoDak

Read the license. Microsoft can do whatever they want to the contents of your computer. If they deem it in violation of the license, they can wipe it with no liability on their part.


5 posted on 08/02/2005 12:54:48 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: SoDak

No. Automatic Updates bypasses the WGA authentication: of course, you'll only get security patches with Automatic Updates.


6 posted on 08/02/2005 12:55:05 AM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: LibWhacker

All of this from the same company that promised all of their problems would be taken care of with the release of Windows 98.


7 posted on 08/02/2005 12:55:09 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: SoDak

I don't have Auto Update enabled, but I had to validate this evening it placed a Browser Help Object on the system, evidently in place of the original Windows XP registration, and the BHO is dependent on a "legitcheckcontrol.dll" file. I had to give it permission to do that. My guess is that all it does from now on is confirm the presence of the BHO.


8 posted on 08/02/2005 12:58:05 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: SoDak

Sure sounds like it, doesn't it?


9 posted on 08/02/2005 12:58:12 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: SoDak
That should read: when I had to validate this evening..
10 posted on 08/02/2005 12:58:56 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: glorgau

No license here, none needed.


11 posted on 08/02/2005 12:59:35 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: AntiGuv
two updated drivers

Hardware drivers? Yikes! I do the security updates, but everytime I've installed one of their hardware drivers, it's whacked a machine.

I never, never use their auto hardware drivers, prefer to get them from the mfg.

12 posted on 08/02/2005 1:01:50 AM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: SoDak

PS. It doesn't let you remove the validation tool by 'ordinary' means either. I was gonna see what it does if you do; presuming it would ask to validate again when I try to run Windows Update. I could rip it out anyhow but I don't feel that much need to find out. LOL


13 posted on 08/02/2005 1:02:05 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: benjaminjjones

I almost always get them from the manufacturer myself, but this seems to have nicely fixed my very annoying connection problems and internet lag of the past few weeks. They were drivers for my network card. I'd actually tried to find newer drivers but hadn't been able to track them down. Microsoft actually done good! I should mark this day on my calendar..


14 posted on 08/02/2005 1:04:30 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv
It's an obnoxious assumption by Microsoft that they can review everything on your computer just because you're using their operating system. Would you let your realtor search your house anytime just because you wanted him to have one thing fixed that should have been good when you bought the place?
15 posted on 08/02/2005 1:23:13 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Spelling Okay more often than not. It's the little victories in life.)
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To: AntiGuv
The Worst Things You Can Do To Your Computer.

1. Enable Microsoft Auto Updates.

2. On The Windows Update Website, install all of the updates it lists that you do not have installed. (Please note that I did not write that you need.)

The fact is that very few of the downloads listed on windows update are needed to fix problems. Many are junkie add ons that MS thinks you may want, but you do not need or in the case of Digital Copyright Management, may actually prevent you from doing something on your computer you already do. And if this isn't enough, some of these patches, updates and drivers can completely screwup your computer.
The best thing is to install only those updates that apply to you and the way you use the computer,like Service Pack 1 which give USB 2.0 support. The website below is a place where you can download updates for not only Microsoft , but also many more programs and hardware, then install only what you really need. And as a bonus there is an abbreviated description of each update, so that you can determine the need.
16 posted on 08/02/2005 1:24:50 AM PDT by Wooly
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To: Wooly

Website address from last post
http://www.softwarepatch.com/index.html


17 posted on 08/02/2005 1:25:37 AM PDT by Wooly
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To: Wooly

I do review every update carefully before downloading and don't download anything that seems useless to me. Thanks for the website link! I'll definitely check it out.


18 posted on 08/02/2005 1:28:15 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv
I almost always get them from the manufacturer myself

Occasionally MS fixes their problems.

I know it's sad for an IT guy, but my main machine is still 98SE with an Intel mobo and I've always had problems with the 98SE WinUpdate device drivers.

I've been meaning to upgrade the beast (to NT, then 2K, now XP) but it's got so many utilities and crap from over the years, I'm caught in dread between an upgrade or a building a completely new machine and reinstalling everything.

Even doubly sad since I've made a living fixing 'puters since early DOS (now through XP), and servers since NW 3.X through MS 2003.

It's kinda like the carpenter who never fixes his own broken stairway.

19 posted on 08/02/2005 2:17:44 AM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: benjaminjjones
Even doubly sad since I've made a living fixing 'puters

Be glad you're not the Maytag repairman.

20 posted on 08/02/2005 2:23:38 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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