Posted on 08/01/2005 12:04:05 PM PDT by JZelle
To wander around in, yeah . . . but I bet He'd have dressed properly for worship.
No bragging, just fact. Showed up well dressed, answered questions respectfully--evidently, the attorneys don't want that kind of juror.
Strange that you should bring church clothing into this.
James 2:1-4 My dear brothers and sisters,* how can you claim that you have faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ if you favor some people more than others?
2 For instance, suppose someone comes into your meeting* dressed in fancy clothes and expensive jewelry, and another comes in who is poor and dressed in shabby clothes.
3 If you give special attention and a good seat to the rich person, but you say to the poor one, "You can stand over there, or else sit on the floor"-well,
4 doesn't this discrimination show that you are guided by wrong motives?
Taken from the New Living Translation interpretation of the Bible.
Vinny got in a little bit of trouble for clothes that the Southern judge didn't approve of too.
Well.........that's what I showed up in this AM. But then I showered and changed into more appropriate business attire.
I agree. However, the richest man is the one who tends to wear shorts. He either wears shorts or power suits.
I work at a courthouse, and you should see what judges wear in the secure hallway behind the courtrooms. They wear whatever they want.
In a courthouse, the best dressed people are either defendants or lawyers.
I hate dressing up for church, but I make it part of my habit, not because I want to impress other people but as a reminder to myself not to take church for granted, that it's a privelege to go. And that it's not about me and how much I hate hose and fancy shoes and dresses in general.
Shouldn't matter whether it's the richest, the poorest, or in the middle.
If you show up for jury dury in clothing that is acceptable on the street, that should be enough.
To my way of thinking, defendant is the same way.
Of course, if you want to be treated as a, more than, respectable member of society, decorum is the key.
Most courtrooms are not the place to show up as a defendant wearing cutoffs, a tank top, and flip-flops if you want to be seen as anything other than a scumbag.
Conversely, if you don't care; come in the buff.
That depends... If we are talking mountain, please remove the two "saber-tooth" spikes from each toe before coming into court. I must assume we are talking baggies here, not the standard roadie tights. A loose fitting cool max shirt (sleeved) would be appropriate, but please ensure you are pre-ride, rather than post-ride for the sake of those sitting near you.
Now if we are going roadie, all bets are off. Please at least have the good sense to be discrete - one should not be able to tell a gentleman's religion, nor is it polite for women to point. And ditch the SPDs fer cryin' out loud. Go to Look, or preferably speedplay - but do use cleat covers for silence and safety. As a general rule most team jerseys are OK. I would avoid jerseys citing ones favorite beer, and most Primal wear, except, perhaps, the stars-n-stripes jersey. Blazin' Saddle by Pearl is another no-no (tacky). Plain colors are preferable, and although your high standards will be lost on virtually everyone, Assos is a nice choice IMHO.
A judge imposing his concept of dressing properly is no better than a judge who imposes his concept of what the constitution should say instead of what it does say. IMO.
It is a little strange to see middle-aged men dressing as they did when in grade school: t-shirts, ball caps, short pants and sneakers. Recall that we rarely saw Ward Cleaver ("Leave it to Beaver") without a tie. Now there was a 'Dad'.
Church, court, PTA, public hangings, etc.--dress up a little. Show some respect for others, if not yourself.
Besides it helps reveal stinking hippies, before you get close enough to smell them . . .
Or better yet, take your clothes off, and be hauled off by the bailiffs. The reason, lawyers give defendants a change of clothes is so that they don't look like street thugs. (even if they are)
WOW...I guess I'll MAKE SURE to never visit you!!!!
I agree with you. I'd kill to be on a jury. Uh, wait a minute. I should probably rephrase that.
Seriesly folks, as a juror, you are the most powerful you will ever be as a citizen of this country. You have the ability and duty to judge both the law and the facts of the case. Prosecutors were having a hell of a time getting convictions towards the end of prohibition. Seems the folks were less than thrilled with the prospect of convicting people of something that they didn't feel was an actual crime.
Workplace dress is determined by those who control the workplace. A courthouse may be "owned" the the citizens, but in our republican form of government, the citizens delegate the authority to its representatives.
I would contend that stereotyping based on one's level of dress falls more readily under that category than any particular dress code.
Or do you believe that the admonition of James not to have low regard for a brother in Christ due to their mode of dress is waived if the person is in nice clothing?
I agree. A courtroom is a serious place, where serious issues are going to be decided, people should dress appropriately.
I know how you feel. I felt the exact same way. Then I sat on one.
I have never-not once-been called for jury duty. I'd like to, just to see what it's like.
Basically, it sucks. I wouldn't try to get out of it but it really does.
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