Posted on 08/01/2005 10:09:16 AM PDT by nickcarraway
What a waste of good southern cooking.
That's cruel and unusual punishment for the tax payers.
"may render Johnston completely paralyzed but fully conscious and susceptible to pain."
And the problem is...?
What's wrong with a bullet in the head?
China even bills for the bullet.
Because the animals that you put down are innocent. Their only "guilt" is to have contracted a painful condition, a disease, or lived too long to be able make it to the back yard. Furthermore, the beast that you dispatch is much more than the sum of its biology to its owner. The circumstance of a pets death will linger for a long time in the mind of its owner and you do your business wise by being just as respectful of the spiritual bond that you are breaking as you are of the physical.
As for the criminals, they don't deserve a "good death", but society does so that executions can be carried out without cause of interference from outside groups. Guilt should be without doubt and so should the absence of cruel and unusual.
You are one sick puppy. And I like you a whole lot.
How about we take all the Arab types at Gitmo and put them on an island too? With nothing to eat by Porky Pig?
Auh-DEE-Buh-Duh, Auh-DEE-Buh-Duh, uh, THAT'S ALL FOLKS!
Ahh....the whole article is specious at best.
It is predicated on the person 'waking up' from a too small dose of Thiopental before he's dead.
Give him more thiopental, and the problem is taken care of...not to mention that within 45 seconds of cardiac arrest the lack of blood flow to the brain will render him amnesic anyway.
As someone who has administered a LOT of thiopental, I can tell you that even with a commonly accepted anesthetic induction dose of about 4-5 mg/kg (and I would bet they give even more) that the person would not be remembering anything for at least 15 minutes (in all likelihood longer) and in that time the person would be dead from the potassium and induced cardiac arrest.
Just stop feeding him. They say it's euphoric and will even make him beautiful.
It is amazing to hear the crys of: disembowl him, "draw and quarter" him, eye for an eye, etc.
Most people on this forum profess to believe in the Constitution. It seems as if for many it is a conditional belief. Whereas, they only believe in the Constitution when they agree with what it says. That is the same mindset held by many leftists. (see abortion and gun control, socialism etc.)
It is well within the law to review a method of execution to see if it is allowed under the Eighth Amendment. There is obvisouly some question as to whether the drug cocktail used works as advertised. So it fair to review it.
You can agree or disagree whether the method is cruel and unusual, but to call for executions that obviously fall outside of what the Eighth Amendment allows is asinine.
Next thing you know you will arguing that the Fourth Amendment prevents States from regulating abortions.
Disclosure:
I have no moral or substantive problem the death penalty as applied to those who deserve it.
However, I am against it on procedural grounds. I think our criminal justice is system is far too corrupt, and/or incompetent to have such absolute power.
.22 hollow point?
Therefore, as a logical and practical matter liberals should have no substantive objection on "cruel and unusual punishment" grounds to shoving scissors into the base of his skull (no anesthetic, of course) and shoving a vacuum cleaner hose into the gap.
Good question. His patients want to die.
""The worst-case scenario is that you wake after a sub-anesthetic dose of sodium pentothal. [You've already received] a paralyzing dose of Pavulon -- and experience the torment of suffocation and conscious paralysis -- and then the agony of the burning potassium chloride," says Mark Heath, an anesthesiologist at Columbia University Medical Center in New York. "There are abundant examples of people who wake up in the middle of surgery feeling everything -- having the full experience of pain and terror, but [because of the Pavulon] are unable to communicate in any way that they're awake.""
Maybe they should just ut duct tape on the convicts mouth, give him the Pavulon and then the family can repeatedly stab him until he is dead.
Or just forget the valium and put a bullet in the back of his head.
Inflation, eh?
"We had a euthanasia drug similar to what is used for lethal injection and it was taken off of the market because it was cruel and inhumane."
Was it really cruel and inhumane, or was it just suggested that it was by annimal rights activists with no proof?
"I often wondered why we (veterinarians) are more caring about the animals than the Medical Doctors are about the prisoners about to be put to sleep."
All the evidence points to the current mixture of drugs working. The suggestion that people migh wake up is based on patients who received smaller than normal doses because of fears about their poor health. Convicts receive a much larger than normal dose, not a smaller dose.
Lethal injection does not take a long period of time like a surgery often does.
There are suggestions that other drug mixtures might work better. There is a long history of the current drugs working at their intended goal of killing in a humane way.
There's no reason to change what works.
As far as I've always been concerned, this is more or less the way it should be.
I agree, unless someone complains about the pain, let's just keep it this way.
Oxygen deprivation is exactly what PETA wants...for chickens. Because it's supposedly painless. As long as the sentence gets carried out somehow, it works for me.
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