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Mexican mercenaries expand base into U.S.
The Washington Times ^ | 1 AUGUST 2005 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 08/01/2005 3:43:47 AM PDT by rdb3

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To: rdb3

I always wondered about that name Fox. Zorro he's not.


61 posted on 08/01/2005 6:58:23 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: rdb3
It has absolutely nothing to do with CAFTA.

Sure it does.
As transnational corporate farming displaces Latin American subsistance farming, it is logical to expect that many of the subsistance farmers will resort to growing illicit "crops". These will also be easier to smuggle into the United States due to the relaxed import restictions under CAFTA.

62 posted on 08/01/2005 7:19:23 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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To: AIC

Well, I can think of one possible solution to your issue of US Military being unable to "arrest" invaders under Posse Commitatus (which I opine needs to be revisited by the SCOTUS). But I very much doubt that it will ever happen.

Don't you ever wonder about that statement that these "Zeta" guys are all "deserters" from the Mexican military?

I've got to wonder if that's just a cover for a covert tactical military deployment under the full, albeit secretive auspices of the FOX Regime for US border penetration and creating internal chaos in preparation for a more significant invasion. Since they've been helping Jihaddists get into the US, don't we suppose that Islamic Jihad might reciprocate by assisting Mexico in it's ambitions?

Didn't Osamma BL consider drugs to be another weapon to be used against Europe and America? Did all those poppy fields in Afghanistan have anything to do with AlQuida setting up HQ there?

Are we seeing a certain connection here?

What we might need is a serious dust-up between Zetas and Federal Officers - which they seem to be reasonably adept at avoiding for some reason.
If Zeta casualties or captives could be directly linked to Mexican military, or that they had any kind of military support, we could then declare war on Mexico in response to their preemptive invasion of soverign US territory.

Then any "illeagals" - at least those caught under arms - could be considered "Enemy combattants"/POWs.

But you're right; that's a pipe dream.
The corruption probably goes a lot higher up the US administrative ladder than we would even care to consider.

What's more likely is that terrorists will blackmail the US with a nuke into ceding a good part of the SW US back to Mexico.

Then our undefended border will be West of Louisiana and Arkansas, and somewhere South of Nebraska.
Won't that be fun!?

Then extension of the Caliphate throughout "restored" Mexico will be deferred to another day; they have bigger fish to fry first.


63 posted on 08/01/2005 7:22:02 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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To: rdb3

I'm doing my best to figure out where you are coming from.

Obviously - you don't think the military should be put on the US border. I disagree.

However - I don't think that the U.S. Military should be put on the U.S. Border to act as police and arrest people.

I think the U.S. Military should be put on the border to protect the country by killing and destroying the invaders.

Let the existing border patrol handle the legal entry points into the U.S. - but put the military everywhere else. And order them to protect the border at all costs.

I'm not talking about just a couple military patrols with humvees and .50 cal... I talking about a full scale operation with air support and a free fire zone - anything and anyone seen crossing into the U.S. should be destroyed immediately - no questions asked.

I sincerely believe that after a few days of death - the invasion would stop.


64 posted on 08/01/2005 7:51:02 AM PDT by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


65 posted on 08/01/2005 9:05:29 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: coconutt2000

"Ya think the ACLU will organize a protest against these gun toting vigilantes?"

No the ACLU is probably handing out road maps and lemonade to these military invaders.


66 posted on 08/01/2005 9:09:36 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: sgtbono2002
Now we sign on to Cafta and send more jobs over the border, WTF is going on?

What is going on is the loss of American sovereignty. One world government, one world order.

What is planned for America is to pull the US down to third world level so the rest of the world can get a large portion of our wealth and can be built up by taking from Americans.

Don't forget that NAFTA and CAFTA are the prelude to FTAA (Free Trade Association of the Americas) soon to be foisted onto us by the president and congress more interested in multinational corporations than in American citizens. Then there will be no borders, either north or south, for America. The plan is to accomplish this by 2010.

We are being sold out, folks.

67 posted on 08/01/2005 9:40:30 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: rdb3
Why do I have the suspicion that other countries are involved in this?

Because you have a functioning brain.

A renegade band of Mexican military deserters, offering $50,000 bounties for the assassination of U.S. law-enforcement officers, has expanded its base of operations into the United States to protect loads of cocaine and marijuana being brought into America by Mexican smugglers, authorities said.

Mexico, number one in illegal immigration and now number one in the drug biz.

Mexico now dominates U.S. drug distribution
DEA: Colombia is no longer No. 1 In $400 Billion Annual Trade
August 1, 2005
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/12274111.htm

68 posted on 08/01/2005 9:59:08 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: ConsentofGoverned

"WAKE UP GOP the conservative voters are willing to walk away."

GOING to walk away


69 posted on 08/01/2005 10:01:34 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


70 posted on 08/01/2005 10:04:27 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: rdb3; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; ...
"A renegade band of Mexican military deserters, offering $50,000 bounties for the assassination of U.S. law-enforcement officers, has expanded its base of operations into the United States . ."

71 posted on 08/01/2005 10:11:28 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: rdb3; HiJinx

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


72 posted on 08/01/2005 10:11:40 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: rdb3; stopem; All
Mexican Army Incursions Into The United States

Mexican Army Incursions Into The United States
The Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus ^

Posted on 01/24/2004 9:54:01 AM PST by Happy2BMe

Incursions

During his travels along the border, Rep. Tancredo learned that the Mexican Army and Law Enforcement Agencies routinely make "incursions" into the U.S. A total of 23 were confirmed by the U.S. government in 2001, and there have been over 115 since 1996. The purpose of these incursions is not totally understood, but U.S. officials have speculated that they are designed to help facilitate the flow of illegal drugs into America, either by creating a diversion or by providing cover for the traffickers.

When Rep. Tancredo sent a letter to the Mexican government, the Embassy in Washington, DC sent a curt response to his inquiry, implying that the troops were merely getting lost. Not a single U.S. law enforcement agent on the ground in the southwest has agreed with that explanation.

Rep. Tancredo’s office has begun documenting new incursions as they take place. Most recently, two disturbing incursions have taken place. On May 17th, a Mexican Army unit led an incursion near Ajo, Arizona that ended with a shot being fired at a Border Patrol Agent. The agent was not hurt, but had two of his vehicle’s windows shot out. On June 14th, the Mexican Army opened fire (with high-powered .308 rifles) on a vehicle with 20 people packed into it. Six of the passengers were injured, two critically.

Despite Rep. Tancredo’s efforts to draw attention to them, each incident received only spotty coverage. You can read the accounts of each incident by following these links:

May 17th Incursion:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020513-27549872.htm http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020523-865103.htm

June 14th Incursion:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020615-91529269.htm

The issue of incursions needs to be confronted by the U.S. government before a catastrophic incident involving the loss of life occurs. If you have specific information about an incursion by Mexican military or law enforcement, please contact Rep. Tancredo’s office at (202) 225-7882 or tom.tancredo@mail.house.gov. You will remain anonymous.

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Congressional call for troops on border

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King to push crackdown on illegal immigration (Steve King - IA "Put our military on the border.")

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73 posted on 08/01/2005 10:12:08 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: rdb3

you are against our military defending our country by protecting the borders...But somehow I suspect you are gleeful about our border patrol agents AND our military defending Iraq's borders...

Would be the perfect job and training for our National Guard, land and air...

But when one considers we have an official WAR on drugs and terror, you have to wonder why our gov't, who's job it is to defend the citizens of our country, refuses to defend it...

When something doesn't make sense, usually there's a buck in it...And in this case, it's a very big buck...Maybe MENA wasn't just a rumor after all...


74 posted on 08/01/2005 10:19:05 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Yes, some of our polticians certainly appear to be bribed or blackmailed, other might be sleeper agents or mentally unbalanced.


75 posted on 08/01/2005 10:21:46 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: afnamvet
The American people expect and demand secure borders.

What we expect or demand doesn't count anymore. Washington is not listening. Their agenda excludes the opinions of American citizens, those of us who are paying the bills for their mess.

76 posted on 08/01/2005 10:21:54 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen
What we expect or demand doesn't count anymore. Washington is not listening. Their agenda excludes the opinions of American citizens, those of us who are paying the bills for their mess.

This becoming more evident each passing day.

77 posted on 08/01/2005 10:26:49 AM PDT by afnamvet (Jet noise...The Sound of Freedomâ„¢)
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To: Happy2BMe
What, me worry?


78 posted on 08/01/2005 10:26:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: rdb3

This is a very interesting link that rings very true. I believe that one related reason the U.S. is allowing illegal immigration unabated is that shortly after sealing the borders, revolution would ensue in Mexico, and the govt. is all too aware of all the illegals coming across with Che Guevera T-shirts on.
There is no land richer in natural resources and potential year-round agricultural bounty and more laden with corruption than Mexico.


79 posted on 08/01/2005 10:38:34 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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To: rdb3
YOU SAID..."I want a vigorously enlarged Border Patrol. What we have now is a joke.

Soldiers are soldiers, and as a vet, I'm adamantly against placing our troops on the borders."

My responses...Emphatically YES and YES and NO.

No question the Border Patrol is undermanned...with outdated equipment. Beyond that...there is no infrastructure, including processing and detention facilities, biometric IDs, and computer databases to make for an efficient system of Border Security.

The new HSA guy Chertoff has said he wants to address these issues with sweeping reform of the already bureaucratic morass of HSA...but it remains to be seen what he can do and when he can do it.

The fact remains that in addition to manpower...which I agree doesn't need to be infantry troops on the ground...there are intelligence and surveillance assets needed...which act as force multipliers.

I believe that the best way to run these operations is to have highly trained teams of personnel...some of whom will have top clearances....man sensor and surveillance equipment. In addition...working with the military teams will be some of 'those' kind of guys...counter terrorism sorts...all hard core.

The Border Patrol guys can go out and make the actual collars in most cases....exceptions are cases such as this where the bad guys are paramilitary, OR where the bad guys are ME sponsored terrorists sneaking a WMD device across the border.

That IMHO is a bit too hard core for the straight Border Patrol.
80 posted on 08/01/2005 10:38:36 AM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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