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Northeast sees surge of Mexicans
Houston Chronicle ^ | August 1, 2005 | ERIN TEXEIRA, AP

Posted on 08/01/2005 12:26:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

NEWBURGH, N.Y. - Sunday morning in this small Hudson Valley city, more than 1,000 parishioners, most from Mexico, pack Spanish-language Masses at St. Patrick's Catholic Church. Afterward, many families flock to El Azteca for its authentic tacos. If somebody needs a ride home, there are at least a dozen local taxi companies catering to newcomers born in the Mexican states of Puebla and Jalisco.

New residents from Mexico have, in the past four years, opened dozens of businesses that have begun to reinvigorate the ailing downtown district; they are the region's fastest growing community.

It's the same story elsewhere in the Northeast. The region is seeing the impact of Mexican migration.

New Mexican communities have arrived to fill farm, construction and domestic jobs, government data show. Population growth in states such as Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Connecticut would be much slower if not for the newcomers, who are steadily bringing about the region's biggest demographic shift in generations.

Rodolfo O. de la Garza, a sociologist at Columbia University, says it's natural that Mexico is — and will be — the main source of Hispanic migration to the United States.

"Mexico is right there, and Mexico is so big," he said.

Sixty miles north of New York City, Newburgh has historically had a small Puerto Rican community. These days, Mexicans far outnumber Puerto Ricans, demographers say.

In 2000, the city's 4,500 Mexicans represented half of all its Latinos; today, Mexicans are two-thirds of that group, demographers estimate.

"I've seen (Mexicans) grow from a very small, quiet-type community to a very large population, and it continues to grow," said Richard Rivera, president of Latinos Unidos, a local advocacy group.

Rapidly expanding Mexican communities are in East Boston, Burlington, Vt., Central Falls, R.I., and Providence, said Martha Montero-Seiburth, a professor at the University of Massachusetts at Boston.


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Day laborer move sought (Houstonians react -"is way worse than it was three or four years ago")***….A regular police community meeting near Shepherd and Washington last week drew more than 70 residents and business owners, including many who expressed frustration with day laborers.

The problem "is way worse than it was three or four years ago," said Michael Tones, the vice president of New Plan Excel Realty Trust, which owns a shopping center in the area. Tones said customers are frightened by the men loitering along Shepherd near 11th Street.

……………Before the center opened, many of the day laborers would drink in public. He is working to cut down on the drinking, but conceded that some workers still drink outside.

"I tell them to drink at home," he said. "I tell them: If you don't respect me, at least respect the place." …….Deras hopes to get most of the workers from the area to come to the center, but some still prefer to wait for work on nearby corners……..***

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1 posted on 08/01/2005 12:26:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When I was a child in New York, there were NO Mexicans around. Then around 1994, I started noticing several men from Mexico started appearing in the nabe around Fordham University in the Bronx, where I was living in the time. Within a few years, they were bringing their families.

What's interesting is that, for the most part, they are not displacing Anglos. Instead, they are moving into neighborhoods occupied until now by migrants/immigrants from the Hispanic Carribean, specifically Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. Over the past few years, their have been several assaults on Mexican day laborers by Nuyoricans and DominicanYorks, to say nothing of African Americans. Most New Yorkers, who are used to large waves of illegal and legal immigrants, just shrug it all off. The mentality of the average New Yorker is very different from that of the average Californian on this issue.

2 posted on 08/01/2005 12:37:39 AM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Colonization is proceeding apace.


3 posted on 08/01/2005 12:38:12 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

Read my post #2. Those areas where the Mexicans are settling have been Dominican/Puerto Rican enclaves for some time anyway.


4 posted on 08/01/2005 12:39:23 AM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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To: Clemenza

...and they are aghast at NYC spanglish!


5 posted on 08/01/2005 12:40:45 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

Being that I speak Spanish (rather poorly) and had some Mexicans in my last building, I can tell you that they HATE the Dominicans/Puerto Ricans more than anyone else in the city. They can't understand the Carribean accent and Spanglish is not comprehensible to them. Of course, their kids are already speaking Spanglish/New Yorkese, at least those who are enrolled in the New York public school system.


6 posted on 08/01/2005 12:42:47 AM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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To: Clemenza

I guess they gravitate to where the jobs are.


7 posted on 08/01/2005 12:43:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The problem is, they are moving to a place where even a one bedroom in the ghetto will cost them $1,100 a month, which is why they cram 8 people into such small apartments.


8 posted on 08/01/2005 12:44:13 AM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The clueless become affected! lol!!
9 posted on 08/01/2005 12:45:00 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (We're not vigilantes! We're undocumented Border Patrol agents!)
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To: Clemenza

So we have the Dominicans not like the Puerto Ricans, the Mexicans hating both. And the South Americans staying out of it, content to play music in the subway. What we need now are some more Cubans in the mix.


10 posted on 08/01/2005 12:45:30 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Clemenza

You can do better than $1,100 in Washington Heights...


11 posted on 08/01/2005 12:46:44 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

Cubans came to New Jersey in the 1960s and couldn't stand living among the PRs, so they joined their Paisanos in Florida. As it is, the few Cubans who stayed in New Jersey now live out in suburbia, Cubans being a rather affluent ethnic group.


12 posted on 08/01/2005 12:47:03 AM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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Cheapest one bedroom I have seen listed in Washington Heights (east of Broadway, of course) was about $950 for a VERY SMALL one bedroom railroad in a sh-thole building.


13 posted on 08/01/2005 12:47:56 AM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, obviously they must be taking a shortcut via Canada.


14 posted on 08/01/2005 12:48:49 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BUMP


15 posted on 08/01/2005 12:49:39 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: Clemenza

If Castro falls, then maybe we'll get a new influx into NYC...maybe we'll get some more of those Cuban/Chinese places I used to like so much.


16 posted on 08/01/2005 12:49:41 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: The Red Zone

The two guys who worked at my local pizzeria came via Texas, made their way to North Carolina (where they told me they got driver's licenses) and took I-95 up to New York. All of the Mexicans in New York (ok, at least 98%) are from the area around the city of Puebla.


17 posted on 08/01/2005 12:50:40 AM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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To: Clemenza
Yes, I see what you're saying. The colonization process has been going on for a while. It's pace, though, appears to be picking up.

But the tides of history surge and recede...King Canute is laughing.

18 posted on 08/01/2005 12:51:30 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Clemenza

Cheapest one bedroom I have seen listed in Washington Heights (east of Broadway, of course) was about $950 for a VERY SMALL one bedroom railroad in a sh-thole building.


C'mon! You're a New Yorker. You know better than that. If you go up to Washington Heights with a few hundred dollars cash to lay on the right broker, you can find something decent (for Washington Heights).


19 posted on 08/01/2005 12:51:35 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Clemenza

It was a joke.


20 posted on 08/01/2005 12:52:02 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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