Posted on 07/31/2005 10:05:59 PM PDT by DuckFan4ever
No Mishandling, Negligence Involved
SALEM, Ore. -- Investigators say they now know how a Marion County deputy was accidentally shot in the leg Wednesday night by his own gun. Steven Cooper was on duty, getting out of his unmarked squad car when his Glock handgun discharged inside his holster.
The bullet went through his lower right leg, causing "substantial" injuries to major blood vessels and arteries, as well as to his tibia. The bullet was lodged in the bone.
An investigation determined that the firing was not the result of mishandling of the handgun or other form of negligence by Cooper.
The deputy was wearing a jacket with drawstrings and toggles to adjust the waistband. It is believed that one of the plastic toggles worked its way into the gun holster and became entangled in the trigger guard.
When Cooper extended his arm to push open the car door, his coat became taut and the waistband pulled up. The drawstring tightened enough to pull the trigger.
Cooper, a 10-year veteran of the sheriff's office, is assigned to a bicycle patrol officer and is a member of the Marion County Interagency SWAT Team.
"A Glock is more like carrying a .45 Colt model 1911, hammer back on a chambered round, with the safety off."
Actually its less safe than quoted above because the 1911 still has the grip safety.
You might want to check out the new Taurus 1911. Bells, whistles, and less than $700. I love my various .45 ACPs and the Kimber is a sweetheart.
Good point, I forgot the grip safety.
This is my major complaint about Glocks. No positive safety, and the trigger pull is NOT like a DA revolver, it's exactly like a SA semi-auto, which it is.
How many pounds of pressure are required to fire a standard Glock?
How man pounds of pressure are required to fire a typical revolver, DA?
How many pounds of pressure are required to fire a typical 1911?
Get back to me when you have the answers.
Simple answer.
If you cannot understand that a Glock is a "Big Boy" gun have your wife carry it. Then go get yourself a gun with so many safeties that it won't fire unless the Governor is there with a special key.
I am a "Big Boy".
I don't need the Governor or a safety. I have been trained and have trained others.
Glocks are for serious grown-ups. Other than that need not apply.
If you so desperately need a safety then maybe you don't need a handgun.
Pure BS. No retention holster or any holster that I know of except maybe an Uncle Mike has room for a "toggle" to work its way into it.
A toggles main driving force is gravity. A toggle doesn't work its way anywhere.
These are almost as bad as the wal-mart threads.
The A75 Astra works the same way. Decocker, no safety, trigger is like a double action for the first shot.
Sounds like the holster design didn't adequately protect the trigger against this type of occurrence.
Bingo!
I have yet to figure out why anyone would have to pin the grip safety. If you take the safety out of the pistol, all you have to do is break off the tap which stops the trigger. Without the tab, the trigger can't be blocked.
Unless, you don't like the movement when the grip safety toggles up and down.
Most people don't shoot the 1911 with the high hold, thumb on the thumb safety. Unfortunately, when the high hold is used, the palm of the hand "cups" the grip safety and the safety isn't pressed down. The solution is going back to the original flat mainspring housing.
Eaker, possessions aren't the measure of a man. Just because they pluck the money down on something, doesn't make them better or worse than the next guy. There have been a lot of wealthy people who died alone.
Huh?
How many pounds of pressure are required to fire a standard Glock?
Trigger pull for the Glock is 5.5 pounds. However, I found an article that said Glock measures from the tip of the trigger. When they put the scale in the middle of the trigger in the article it measured 8 pounds.
How man pounds of pressure are required to fire a typical revolver, DA? Haven't found any data on that yet, but since most of the trigger scales only go up to 12 pounds, so I'd say not more then that. My best guess? Around 10 pounds.
How many pounds of pressure are required to fire a typical 1911?
Around 4.5 to 5 pounds.
How man pounds of pressure are required to fire a typical revolver, DA?
Haven't found any data on that yet, but since most of the trigger scales only go up to 12 pounds, so I'd say not more then that. My best guess? Around 10 pounds.
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