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Breast-feeding mom demands apology for indecent exposure ticket
GJsentinel ^ | July 28, 2005 - 11:33 p.m

Posted on 07/30/2005 8:15:50 AM PDT by Asphalt

FORT COLLINS, Colo. — Never mind officials voiding a $50 ticket for indecent exposure, or an explanation from county officials that a ranger who issued the citation to the breast-feeding mother was inexperienced.

Dorian Ryan said she wants an apology for what she called a "humiliating and degrading" experience.

"This isn't right. Women shouldn't be harassed for breast-feeding their children," Dorian Ryan said.

Colorado lawmakers agree. A law passed last year gives women the right to breast feed anywhere she's allowed to be in public.

Ryan, 43, was ticketed for indecent exposure July 14 when she breast fed her son at the Carter Lake swim beach in Larimer County. She was shielded from view by two umbrellas and a towel.

An inexperienced park ranger mistakenly issued the ticket, said Dan Rieves, manager of the Blue Mountain District, which oversees the beach. Park officials have voided the ticket.

Rieves, who has been in contact with Ryan, said a written apology would be sent Friday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: apologizethis; blahblahblah; breastfeeding; co; donutwatch; dorianryan; mmmmtittymmm; shutupwhiner; who
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To: Xenalyte

What if you notice someone breastfeeding, but only because you see a baby-shaped lump under the shoulder blanket and see little feet sticking out -- still offensive? I.e., is it the mere knowledge that someone is discreetly breastfeeding nearby that offends you? Or is it actually seeing skin/suckling?


421 posted on 07/31/2005 2:05:32 PM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: Rebelbase

Um, I personally have a problem with people flashing their nipples. If you like that, you're welcome to go live in a nuddist colony.


422 posted on 07/31/2005 3:04:23 PM PDT by Asphalt (Join my NFL ping list! FReepmail me| The best things in life aren't things)
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To: Asphalt

I think you mean women not people.Any time a woman breast feeds in public there is always the chance someone may see a nipple.So, I support no laws on this.


423 posted on 07/31/2005 3:41:59 PM PDT by after dark
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To: Alia
Your argument about how formula has saved all those poor third world infants is flawed. Poor people in third world countries do not have access to clean water necessary for formula. Poor people in those countries do not even have the money to buy the formula .Years ago a major formula company gave out free samples of its milk to poor Peruvian women.When the samples ran out those babies died of malnourishment.The U.N. in this case is right and you are wrong.Anyone who can look at a nursing mother and think cow ,is a prude!
424 posted on 07/31/2005 3:54:35 PM PDT by after dark
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To: after dark

Whatever floats your boat, hon, on the prude thing; anyone who differs from your noble sentiments is obviously a prude in your book. How Victorian of you.

Good point in re "water quality" in some of the countries needing relief; but as I read -- water gets shipped in too


425 posted on 07/31/2005 4:10:54 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia; after dark

I sometimes MOOOO myself, especially when the baby decides to sleep all night out of the blue :-).


426 posted on 07/31/2005 4:14:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Asphalt; after dark

It's funny how males will bear any burden, pay any price, fill in your cliche, in order to see a breast ... and women will spend a fortune on clothes that show every allowable square centimeter, and then a fraction more ... but if there's a baby eating, it's suddenly a moral outrage, an aesthetic crisis, and a public sanitation disaster.


427 posted on 07/31/2005 4:16:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Tax-chick

Ha!You're funny!


428 posted on 07/31/2005 4:17:31 PM PDT by after dark
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To: after dark
Good on you! Meaning, sometimes, things do happen -- when nursing takes place. That's what gets me about these threads, tho. I think most women do make reasonable attempts at civility (as nursing moms). To practice civil respect. Too bad on the strange woman hassling you, tho.

The thing I've already seen in my time of observing the children of exhibitionist nursers -- it isn't a bond that forms -- the children rebel. It's not at all what one might think would happen in the "au organic motherhood" universe; but I've seen it so much. Sugar is taboo; therefore the children want sugar. War is bad, therefore the children want to join the military.

The "cow thing". Let me explain that.

The uber organic movements in Berkeley and San Francisco DO TREAT PUBLIC URINATION, PUBLIC NUDITY, PUBLIC SEXUAL INTERCOURSE, AND EXHIBITIONIST NURSING the same way: It's just a body function, as their saying goes.

Cows don't nurse their young to be "exhibitionist" -- they do it because they do not have brain cells which would coalesce into something mankind might and often does strive towards: higher civilization.

Among the "uber organies" is this theology of "back to Earth" (of which I go along with much of that; homeopathy, strong family ties, maintaining self-reliance and independence on multi-levels). But amid an urban center, say, like Berkeley and San Francisco? This rush back to nature under the setting of hightechnologic "urbanity" just makes them look like cows. Not "higher, more evolved" beings.

The whole thing with the bonding and the mothers? I think it's probably there. But I think instead of the children adapting to the world; the parents become like kids themselves, and tend to raise uncivilized kids.

Of course there are exceptions to the rule. I can count on one hand alone all the hippies I know who moved out to the communes of Guerneville, Cazadero, etc., to be "natural" and live self-sustaining lifestyles. A whole generation has passed and most of them who actually LIVED out the non-urban lifestyle.. became libertarians and conservatives. Those who live in urban "mecca's" talk a fine talk about "au naturalness" but don't walk it. They stay stuck psychologicallyy, I think, inside a twisted world view of "be here now". And they don't evolve. I sometimes suspect it's why they are so angry all the time.

I find their using their babies as political ideologic props as offensive as the vitriol they spew at our soldiers. It's all politics to them. More politics than nuture, that's for sure.

429 posted on 07/31/2005 4:24:33 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Tax-chick

Don't you make me laugh, Tax-Chick. That just brings back my own memories, uh, mammory memories.. :)


430 posted on 07/31/2005 4:26:55 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

James is only nursing once a day now, when he first wakes up in the morning, but starting in February I'll get to MOOOO again.


431 posted on 07/31/2005 4:28:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Tax-chick

NO KIDDING!!! Tax-chick! WOW! Such great news! Congratulations! You and your hubby make beautiful children, and raise them well. Delightful, healthy children. (It must be that belly dancing routine, eh? lol :)...)


432 posted on 07/31/2005 4:33:38 PM PDT by Alia
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To: ellery

Your "what if" is moot, because a blanket means I don't notice.

Nipple, I notice.

Seeing skin and lips attached to it, that's offensive.


433 posted on 07/31/2005 4:34:31 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Alia

I thought you knew ... it's been all over the NC forum. James gets his Replacement in February, and I'm sure he won't like it one bit.

So, another two years of FReeping and nursing :-).


434 posted on 07/31/2005 4:35:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Tax-chick

People who demand apologies have lost my respect.

Pretty much agree. The "apology" schtick is getting pretty thick, you can't turn on the tube anymore without hearing about some maliciously wronged and defamed spineless wimp demanding an apology.

Are people that insecure these days?


435 posted on 07/31/2005 4:42:04 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: djf

And if it's not someone demanding an apology, it's someone apologizing for something they didn't even do, like lynchings or owning slaves.


436 posted on 07/31/2005 4:50:14 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Tax-chick

BLESSINGS! BLESSINGS! I didn't know. Not sure how I missed it either. "His Replacement". lol!!!! Stay strong, stay happy, stay in love!


437 posted on 07/31/2005 4:52:00 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

Doing our best :-).


438 posted on 07/31/2005 4:52:47 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Tax-chick

Amen to that! I've got a new grandbaby coming in a month. I was to midwife my first grandbaby; but she came e-early. I'll be there for this blessing. Got my med bag packed.


439 posted on 07/31/2005 4:55:28 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

Terrific! I hope you get there at the right time! I'm getting a new OB this time (the practice that delivered James reminded me of the Air Force!). I'm going to see him the week after next; Bill and Tom have Civil War camp the next few days.


440 posted on 07/31/2005 4:57:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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