Posted on 07/30/2005 7:57:24 AM PDT by quesney
Unbelievable. The nerve of these self-absorbed cowards.
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Suspect: I have rights
By VIRGINIA WHEELER, JEROME STARKEY and RICHARD WHITE
THE two terror suspects caught in West London demanded cops respect their HUMAN RIGHTS during the siege on their flat.
A witness said: “I heard one of them say ‘I’ve got rights’.”
And an astonished security source said: “We could not believe our ears when we heard them moaning about their human rights.
“What about the rights of the innocent people we believe they wanted to kill?
“What about the rights of the 52 people murdered by the four suicide bombers on July 7?”
Bus bomb suspect Muktar Mohammed-Said and alleged Oval Tube attacker Ramzi Mohammed also told police they were too scared to come out of their flat.
Delivery driver Alex Ospina — who lives on the estate where the arrests were made — said he heard one of the men shouting to police.
Alex, 31, said: “The police were saying ‘Come out’, but the guy was saying he was scared.
“He was saying: ‘How do I know you’re not going to shoot me like the guy in Stockwell Tube station?’
“The police told him: ‘That was a mistake, it’s not going to happen.’”
The speed of the police operation meant many terrified residents were trapped in their flats as cops stormed the building in Dalgarno Gardens, Notting Hill.
Stay back ... kids ushered away Stay back ... kids ushered away
One mum, who declined to be named, heard cops pleading with one of the men to get out.
She said: “Police were shouting something like: ‘Mohammed, get out, get out. Give yourself up.’
“The negotiations went on for about 30 minutes. The next thing I knew there was a huge explosion as police blew the doors off the apartment and rushed in.”
Videocam footage shot by one resident showed the moment the terror suspects were arrested. Both men emerged naked on a balcony, holding their hands in the air.
They were spitting and coughing from the effects of CS gas and smoke from the stun grenades.
One witness said: “The police slowly inched them back inside the flat.
“Both men had a look of absolute surrender. They appeared to be very shocked.”
Residents later saw one suspect being led away wearing a white police-issue boiler suit with plastic bags over his hands.
Resident Kay Major said: “Two officers in blue boiler suits were on either side of him. They walked slowly and got inside a Black Astra.
“The man had plastic bags over his hands and they held paper or cardboard over his face.”
One stunned estate resident told how he has been caught up FOUR times in the London bombings.
Dad-of-two Michael Hellings, 39, was injured in the Aldgate attack on 7/7. He was then evacuated from a mosque in East London after he went there to thank Muslims who had helped him.
He also walked past a park in Notting Hill when cops carried out a controlled explosion last week — and he LIVES on the estate raided yesterday.
Mr Hellings said: “These troubles seem to follow me around.
“I don’t know if I’m the luckiest man alive or the most unlucky.”
Police chief Peter Clarke, head of the Met’s anti-terrorist branch, last night thanked the public for their support and assistance during the probe into the bombings.
He urged anyone with information about the suspects to ring the police hotline on 0800 789321.
They have no rights
Except the right to be killed humanely.
Something neither give to their victims.
"No wonder they were scared. All those infidel women were going to see their privates."
Not without a magnifying glass.
""knock-knock" "Who is it?" "Candygram"!
heh heh. Shame hollywood is PC. A super well done movie in the style of Blazing Saddles on agencies taking out terrorist would be a block buster. The script material would not be lacking.
I think the Brits banned capitol punishment. Should bring back the drawing and quartering.
Next, they'll claim police torture. Textbook Al Qaeda.
Most of those being killed in Afghanistan and Iraq are muslims of a different stripe. Of course how can you sort them out of the crowd when you indiscriminately place a bomb near a restuarant, school or business?
These insurgents coming into Iraq are more after iraqis than they are our troops or those of other coalition forces. We just happen to be in the way. Sorry but that is the way it is.
I want them ALL sh**ting in their sheets scared!
Let Iraqi citizens vote on things they want in their constitution. Let them vote on rights of women, restrictions on police, safeguards to their civil rights (a bill of rights if you will). Throw it all in the pot and elect people who will protect the people's rights. When they're on board, there won't be enough money to buy them. Iranians working on a civil war will fail. Kurds will jump to the side that protects them. Government by the elites for the elites will never earn loyalty.
Citizens of Iraq think things are not going to be any different. They look and see a world where the powerful will once again take over and those silly enough to stand up will be taken out. Give the Iraqi people a real stake in their own country.
I love my country because my constitution protects me. Not because I count on one personality or another or one party or another or even one President or another. I love my country because my constitution protects me. And my property and my children and my believes and my rights. And the Iraqi people don't have that.
Nice to see everyone's support. At last, at long last, the press hind sighters, cannot criticise the police- if they do,it will fall on deaf ears. Is the tide of PC slowly abating-I hope so.
Just a little matter of historical interest though. I heard the BBC mention the Dalgarno Estate and then mention they are Peabody buildings. This set my aged mind working. I hope all will bear with this digression.
George Peabody. Born 1795 at Peabody, Mass, Died 1869 at London, England. Buried at Peabody Mass USA. Established great merchantile empire in London, England 1837. Had actually served against Britain in the 1812-1814 war. Was sent to London to help heal relations between the two countries. Bequeathed the equivalent of $2.5 million dollars to decent housing for London's poor. A huge amount. The Peabody Trust still operates for this purpose.
He refused a baronetcy from Queen Victoria . He endowed over a billion dollars to Massachusetts and to the war torn South. This for educational services. (I used www.nndb.com/people) for this info.
Yep , they'll cry foul just like at gitmo and the BBC will support the terrorist as usual and cry with them.World's gone insane .England is only second to the US in being WIMPS on terrorist.
We will soon see coverage on the inhumanity of forcing these men to strip naked..a la Abu Grab...and the British equivalent to the ACLU will cry out about the infringement on their human rights
Yes, to the Tower with them!
Perhaps he could lie down on the bomb with the nails embedded and see how those 'rights' feel.
Yes, at times one could give in to despair- feel it myself when I read of the free passes. This being given to the rabid clerics in both countries. With that, also psuedo charitable organizations and the tolerance to THAT organization. It screams blue murder at the slightest provocation-CAIR.
However, having said that (cliche) I would like to mention recent sentences handed down in the US of A, for terrorists. 75 years "bird" and 22 years "bird".
If most do not know what "bird" is. Ronnie Biggs of the train robbery fame, will tell you. He is back in London and has only 27 years "bird" to go.
A correction here. to my previous post. It meant that George Peabody's endowment, while about ten million dollars then, would be about a billion dollars in present currency.
And if you don't, then it just proves that the whole thing was merely anti-American drivel in the first instance.
No 72 Virgins for these Johnny Mohammed Jihadists. There is nothing but shame for them and hatred to them from the so called Arab Street.
Not the kind of recruiting posters the Islamists had in mind.
Heh heh heh.
"“He was saying: ‘How do I know you’re not going to shoot me like the guy in Stockwell Tube station?’"
I kind of enjoy this comment. First of all, it is pro forma Marxist rhetoric in action. The second of all, as Savage pointed out, but I realized before he did, this Brazilian guy was a set up anyway. Wearing a backpack, wearing a winter coat in the summertime, when the police tell him to stop he runs onto the subway? This guy was a "suicide" fake victim. His purpose was to build the counter case against the London police.
Our MSM is more worried about the rights of the Jihadists than our right to stay alive.
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