Frist has done more than capitulate -- he has collaborated with the enemies of the unborn.
He is a Quisling
Bill Frist and Vidkun Quisling*
Separated at birth?
Fristling = a perfidious man who collaborates with the enemy to betray vulnerable humans
Posted on 07/29/2005 10:49:37 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
Senator Frist is seriesly trying to track to the left in the hopes that he will get elected President. This shenanigan shows he hasn't a snowball's chance in H-E-double toothpicks.
throw frist overboard, we need a new majority leader (and NOT lott!)
Is there anyone we can trust to actually fight for a conservative agenda? Cornyn maybe?
is tom coburn the real deal?
I am beginning to think Frist really does not want to be President and is doing everything in his power to make sure it never happens.
This would be President Bush's first veto, right? And Sens. Frist and Hatch would be rallying for an override.
It sure sounds like he wants to get out of politics -- maybe he wants a job at a University... like Harvard.
Frist has done more than capitulate -- he has collaborated with the enemies of the unborn.
He is a Quisling
Bill Frist and Vidkun Quisling*
Separated at birth?
Fristling = a perfidious man who collaborates with the enemy to betray vulnerable humans
I honestly don't know. What is up with the republicans? They have won the WH, the senate and congress yet act like they are in power by permission of the democrats. When are they going to grow some stones and act like leaders? The American people have given them a mandate. It's not like there's any question about what we want them to do.
A true advocate of conservative political positions would be 'outed', attacked by 'moderates' and Demo's, and not be able to garner enough votes.
At this time, I hear of no discussion in the Senate regarding Frist's tenure.
I never liked him from the start. He started rolling over almost immediately.
With a straight face yesterday, Juan Williams told FOXNews Special Report roundtable, that Frist's change of position on embryonic stem cell research, "won't hurt Frist a bit". Juan is an idiot, but we know Frist isn't.
What can Frist be thinking?
Unlike others who think Frist will make a serious presidential run, maybe he just likes the sound of that tinkling cymbal. Maybe Frist figured out he didn't have a snowball's chance and prefers to slither back into the politically correct good graces of the medical/scientific gods. As a radio reporter said yesterday, this isn't a simple Frist flip flop. It's actually a "flip, flop, flip" because it puts Frist back to his original embryonic stem cell research position.
One thing for certain, (in my mind anyway), Frist's inexplicable action yesterday, was the best thing that could have happened to George Allen's chances to become the next Republican candidate for president in 2008. .
Here's something I got in email:
"FRIST'S SPEECH [by Ramesh Ponnuru]
In reading it, I was trying to figure out how he would attempt to reconcile his support for embryo-destructive research with being pro-life--that is, with his belief that human beings have rights from their earliest moments. Other self-declared pro-lifers have tried to square this circle. Would Frist, like Orrin Hatch, deny that human beings that aren't in the womb are human beings? Would he, like Joe Barton, say that human embryos would, if they could, volunteer themselves as sacrifices the way soldiers do?
Nope. Frist doesn't bother trying to explain himself. Here's the passage in full:
"I am pro-life. I believe human life begins at conception. It is at this moment that the organism is complete -- yes, immature -- but complete. An embryo is nascent human life. It’s genetically distinct. And it’s biologically human. It’s living. This position is consistent with my faith. But, to me, it isn’t just a matter of faith. It’s a fact of science.
"Our development is a continuous process -- gradual and chronological. We were all once embryos. The embryo is human life at its earliest stage of development. And accordingly, the human embryo has moral significance and moral worth. It deserves to be treated with the utmost dignity and respect.
"I also believe that embryonic stem cell research should be encouraged and supported. But, just as I said in 2001, it should advance in a manner that affords all human life dignity and respect -- the same dignity and respect we bring to the table as we work with children and adults to advance the frontiers of medicine and health."
So: I believe that taxes are too high and should be lower. I also believe that taxes should be raised, in a manner consistent with the dignity of taxpayers. Does what Frist said make any more sense than that?
The speech in full is a logical train wreck. He says that he still believes what he believed in 2001: that the research should be federally funded with certain restrictions. Then he says that the main funding bill doesn't meet his conditions. Then he says he'll support it anyways. Then he says that he's pro-life and supports alternative courses of research that don't kill human embryos. Then he reiterates his support for embryo-destructive research. It's as though (at least) two different people were giving two different speeches."
From the article: Frist doesn't bother trying to explain himself
Frist is using a variation of the "argument" put forth by Kennedy, Kerry [insert lib politician name]
"For four years, embryo research advocates have claimed that the Bush administration has "banned stem cell research." Not so. The issue in question is federal funding for embryonic stem cell research--research in which new embryos will be destroyed. Such research has been, and is, legal, and while the president has endorsed a ban on human cloning, he has not proposed to outlaw the destruction of embryos created through in vitro fertilization (IVF). He simply does not want the federal government to fund or promote research that requires the ongoing destruction of embryos."
Federal funding is the key. I hope President Bush does veto this bill.
" But then, as if giving a different speech, Frist called on the federal government to promote, with taxpayer dollars, the ongoing destruction of human embryos."
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This somewhat mischaracterizes Frist's actual speech, which is HERE:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1453358/posts
FRIST COMMENTS ON STEM CELL RESEARCH - Floor Statement -- Remarks As Prepared For Delivery
I encourage everyone to read what he SAID before they spend a whole lot of energy on what people say he said.
It is in this rather permissive moral and legal climate that Frist seeks to remove one of the few public boundaries that still exist.
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This seems to be counter to what Frist said, too. In fact much of this whole article seems somewhat misinformed, and misinforming.
I read Frist's statement to say that he thinks the House legislation is very bad, and that it needs much more tightening of the "public boundries that exist", and that the bill he would encourage the Senate to devise would advance the discussion of this whole realm of what ought to be allowed, and in fact impose drastic restrictions in this whole area that the authors imply are needed.
I'm a bit concerned here that they may be intentionally misrepresenting what he said, but in any event, it seems they might better try to ally themselves with Frist in an attempt to gain the restrictions they desire, and that Frist is probably in agreement with them in many areas.
After reading both the Ponnuru article, and this article twice, I am even more certain that the authors of both pieces misunderstand what Frist clearly says in his speech.
I'll have to read it yet again.
I've read it twice. I'm beginning to think that these authors haven't even done that, and yet have taken it upon themselves to do analysis. Personally, I wish they would actually ask Frist for an interview to get clarification if they can't follow what he said. It looks to me like he has much more in mind as to how he wishes the Senate bill would look than can be contained the short speech he gave.
Here, again, is his actual speech:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1453358/posts
FRIST COMMENTS ON STEM CELL RESEARCH - Floor Statement -- Remarks As Prepared For Delivery
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