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Avian Flu Preparedness Project
Freepers. ^ | July 29, 2005 | various FReepers

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:06:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne

This thread is for specific questions and answers about preparing for Avian Flu in the US. News articles and discussion about the Avian Flu can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1399613/posts

Everyone who was on the Avian Flu Surveillance Project ping list will be on this ping list. If you want on or off this list, please let me or Dog Gone know. Thanks.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: avianflu; emergency; emergencyprep; flu; influenza; outbreak; pandemic; preparedness; publichealth
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To: Lazamataz

On the NOVA special last night, they interviewed people from rural villages, who did seem to have a solid lack of awareness of the seriousness of this flu, yet who all were aware of it. It leads me to believe that in Southeast Asia, people all know about this deadly flu and that they WOULD seek medical help ASAP. So I do not think that "many cases" are going unreported.


221 posted on 09/21/2005 9:19:03 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Judith Anne

Thank you for the ping Judith...I am keeping a close eye on this. Glad to hear from you, take care!


222 posted on 09/21/2005 9:19:55 AM PDT by xVIer
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To: M. Espinola

Some of the sites on that natural antiflu immune booster (Sambucol) compared it favorably to Tamiflu. At least it's easier to get for nonmedical people.


223 posted on 09/21/2005 9:20:54 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Judith Anne
Preparation means you don't have to worry. Preparation is the antithesis of panic. If you don't have car insurance, that's when you'll have an accident, if you do, you won't. Isn't that the way it always is?

Bingo - and the auto insurance analogy is perfect and one everyone can understand.

224 posted on 09/21/2005 9:21:51 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: Yaelle
So I do not think that "many cases" are going unreported.

I agree. Well said. In addition, one bit of information: If you look at the CIDRAP link I posted above, CIDRAP counts not only cases confirmed by "official" sources, but also uses credible reports that have more than one source--one more reason to watch their numbers...

225 posted on 09/21/2005 9:23:16 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Yaelle

Sambucol was developed in Israel, and there is solid research supporting its use as an effective antiviral. It can be used daily as a preventative, too...


226 posted on 09/21/2005 9:25:04 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Lazamataz
.....I remember...
227 posted on 09/21/2005 9:26:17 AM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Lazamataz
Laz, roll the chair away from the keyboard...lean forward and breath...in and out...in and out...calming down?

Time for decaf...

228 posted on 09/21/2005 9:30:04 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Shiny things distract me :))
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To: Judith Anne

Thanks, JA !


229 posted on 09/21/2005 9:30:32 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Judith Anne
In private, I have been telling all of my close friends and family to get ready. Many already have been. I don't ask their specifics, or tell them mine unless the connect somehow (a few of us have a bolt hole in the back country that we can all share, with a quarantine area).

That, and I have been praying.

One more thing. Tamiflu has not been effective in the cases so far.
230 posted on 09/21/2005 9:31:52 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Judith Anne
Great to hear back from you, JA! Hope you will have time to stick around.

Re the prescriptions online -- Are they safe to order from? Does anyone know which ones are reputable? Also, should it be Tamiflu or that aerosol one, Relenza? Maybe it would be better to do the breathing one, get it right into the lungs?

Your preparedness ideas are great. The food stored could also be for earthquake, storm, or other power loss situations. Beef jerky, canned foods, cartons of clear broth, etc.

I am sure we would need good masks as well, to attempt to keep other family members from getting it.

231 posted on 09/21/2005 9:31:52 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Lazamataz
Sounds almost like we have identified what the Spanish Flu of 1918 really was.

It was an avian flu.

But with only 5% death rate. G-d help us if this one stays as deadly as it is now.

232 posted on 09/21/2005 9:33:52 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Lazamataz

Yup.........but there is no reason to not do simple things (such as getting a flu shot as you suggest) in preparation to possibly stave the inevitsble off for awhile.


233 posted on 09/21/2005 9:35:24 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: Yaelle

Places like drugstore.com, etc. are safe to order from, in my opinion.

I wouldn't order from a foreign site.

I'm no expert on ordering drugs online, I've never done it. I've read information from others who have, some report that the delivery dates are extended, others have no problem.

Tamiflu IS effective, as is Amantadine. Relenza, I don't know about. There are some reports that Sambucol is getting hard to get, others have no problem.


234 posted on 09/21/2005 9:39:29 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

Fantastic information, thank you so much for posting this. Could you please add me to your ping list?


235 posted on 09/21/2005 10:40:32 AM PDT by Serb5150 (www.illmitch.com)
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To: Judith Anne

What I did for Y2K even though I knew that imbedded processors would not be affected anyway. :-)


236 posted on 09/21/2005 10:49:59 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Serb5150

Sure. You're on it. ;-D


237 posted on 09/21/2005 10:54:01 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Exactly.

What is the point in not being prepared for life's potential emergencies?

A hundred years ago, people had to get food ready during the summer months to last them through the winter--either to grow it and preserve it, or buy it and preserve it, or trade for it and preserve it.

Now, we live in a just-in-time economy, and we think that's normal...we think it's the only way to live. A good portion of Americans and some who have read these threads think that if you get ready ahead of time for a potential catastrophe, you're a fear-mongering primitive back-to-nature antitech luddite.

Which is fine with me, of course. I'm disguised as a high-maintenance latte sippin' diamond-collecting empty-headed boomer consumer. ;-D What the scoffers don't know about my stashes and caches won't hurt them. Or me. ;-D


238 posted on 09/21/2005 11:07:44 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: xVIer

;-D


239 posted on 09/21/2005 11:08:50 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne
Judith Anne, is amantadine again becoming effective against the latest variants? If so, that is a godsend as governments may have reasonable stocks of it.

I've never had a problem ordering from foreign pharmacies. Just don't be tempted (speaking to other folks) to include tranquilizers, sleeping pills, or any scheduled drug in the order. Actually, most or all of the online pharmacies that used to handle those items no longer ship to the U.S. because so many of their packages were being seized. Mail orders I've had from Mexico and Canada have never even been opened enroute nor do they have any kind of customs stamp. In many cases the actual pharmaceutical products were manufactured in India, Germany, or Austria (or Mexico or Canada). Sometimes I have a U.S. prescription for these medications and sometimes I don't. Haven't had any problems with the drugs themselves.

240 posted on 09/21/2005 11:43:22 AM PDT by steve86 (@)
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