FINAL ROLL CALL on S397 and ALL AMENDMENTS - Ban on junk lawsuits against firearm manufacturers

THOMAS ^ | 7-28-05 | Thomas

[Dan from Michigan]

First off, there is one typo on the THOMAS SITE. The Kennedy Amendment was NOT agreed to like it said there. It failed 2-1.

FINAL VOTE

YEAs ---65
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Baucus (D-MT) Bennett (R-UT) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kohl (D-WI) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Pryor (D-AR) Reid (D-NV) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA)

NAYs - 31
Akaka (D-HI) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Stabenow (D-MI) Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 4
Feinstein (D-CA) Roberts (R-KS) Smith (R-OR) Sununu (R-NH)

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REED AMENDMENT 1642 (Substitute entire bill) - DEFEATED

YEAs ---33
Akaka (D-HI) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Stabenow (D-MI) Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---63
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Baucus (D-MT) Bennett (R-UT) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Johnson (D-SD) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Nelson (D-NE) Pryor (D-AR) Reid (D-NV) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA)

Not Voting - 4
Feinstein (D-CA) Roberts (R-KS) Smith (R-OR) Sununu (R-NH)

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KENNEDY AMENDMENT 1615 - Bans "cop killer bullets" like the .30-30 - DEFEATED

YEAs ---31
Akaka (D-HI) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Boxer (D-CA) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Rockefeller (D-WV) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Stabenow (D-MI) Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---64
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Baucus (D-MT) Bennett (R-UT) Bingaman (D-NM) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) DeWine (R-OH) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Leahy (D-VT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Nelson (D-NE) Pryor (D-AR) Reid (D-NV) Salazar (D-CO) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA)

Not Voting - 5
Cornyn (R-TX) Feinstein (D-CA) Roberts (R-KS) Smith (R-OR) Sununu (R-NH)

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CRAIG AMENDMENT 1645 - Increase penalties for Armor piercing ammo(current definition, not Kennedy's), study on AP ammo.

YEAs ---87
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Bennett (R-UT) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Chambliss (R-GA) Clinton (D-NY) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) Dayton (D-MN) DeMint (R-SC) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Durbin (D-IL) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Feinstein (D-CA) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Harkin (D-IA) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Inouye (D-HI) Isakson (R-GA) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Leahy (D-VT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Mikulski (D-MD) Murkowski (R-AK) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Obama (D-IL) Pryor (D-AR) Reid (D-NV) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Santorum (R-PA) Schumer (D-NY) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stabenow (D-MI) Stevens (R-AK) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA)

NAYs ---11
Akaka (D-HI) Boxer (D-CA) Corzine (D-NJ) Feingold (D-WI) Kennedy (D-MA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Reed (D-RI) Sarbanes (D-MD) Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 2
Roberts (R-KS) Sununu (R-NH)

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LAUTENBERG AMENDMENT - Expempt lawsuits ban from injuries to Children

YEAs ---35
Akaka (D-HI) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Stabenow (D-MI) Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---64
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Baucus (D-MT) Bennett (R-UT) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Johnson (D-SD) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Nelson (D-NE) Pryor (D-AR) Reid (D-NV) Roberts (R-KS) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA)

Not Voting - 1
Sununu (R-NH)

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CRAIG AMENDMENT - Allows securing compensation from those who participate in arming criminals.

YEAs ---72
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Bennett (R-UT) Bingaman (D-NM) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Cantwell (D-WA) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Johnson (D-SD) Kohl (D-WI) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Pryor (D-AR) Reid (D-NV) Roberts (R-KS) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stabenow (D-MI) Stevens (R-AK) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA)

NAYs ---26
Akaka (D-HI) Boxer (D-CA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Mikulski (D-MD) Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 2
Biden (D-DE) Sununu (R-NH)

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MOTION TO TABLE (KILL) LEVIN AMENDMENT - To clarify the prohibition on certain civil liability actions.

YEAs ---62
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Baucus (D-MT) Bennett (R-UT) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Johnson (D-SD) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Nelson (D-NE) Pryor (D-AR) Reid (D-NV) Roberts (R-KS) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Sununu (R-NH) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH)

NAYs ---37
Akaka (D-HI) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Lugar (R-IN) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Stabenow (D-MI) Warner (R-VA) Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 1
Domenici (R-NM)

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KOHL AMENDMENT - Require Trigger locks sold with guns.

YEAs ---70
Akaka (D-HI) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Brownback (R-KS) Byrd (D-WV) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Harkin (D-IA) Hutchison (R-TX) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Landrieu (D-LA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lugar (R-IN) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Mikulski (D-MD) Murkowski (R-AK) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Obama (D-IL) Pryor (D-AR) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Roberts (R-KS) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Santorum (R-PA) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stabenow (D-MI) Stevens (R-AK) Sununu (R-NH) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA) Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---30
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Bennett (R-UT) Bond (R-MO) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Hatch (R-UT) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Kyl (R-AZ) Lott (R-MS) Martinez (R-FL) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA)

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Cloture Vote on S397

YEAs ---66
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Baucus (D-MT) Bennett (R-UT) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Chafee (R-RI) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Cornyn (R-TX) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Johnson (D-SD) Kohl (D-WI) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Pryor (D-AR) Reid (D-NV) Roberts (R-KS) Salazar (D-CO) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Sununu (R-NH) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA)

NAYs ---32
Akaka (D-HI) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Clinton (D-NY) Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Stabenow (D-MI) Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 2
Craig (R-ID) Rockefeller (D-WV)

[TC Rider]

I was one of the major doubters. Maybe she learned from her booing in New Hampshire back in 1999/2000.

She was without a doubt soft on it in her 2000 Presidential primary run. Supposedly in 2002 in her Senate primary run, 'somebody' sat her down and explained the facts of life to her. She's learned her lesson well.

[labette]

Who knows?
Every time something {seemingly insignificant} like this is made law, the would-be gods at BATF get to add their interpretation.

[longtermmemmory]

CRAIG AMENDMENT - Allows securing compensation from those who participate in arming criminals.


It seems this guts the entire bill because ANYTHING chan be misinterprited as "participate".

[FreedomPoster]

Concur on the House, and noticed the RINOs as well.

I'd expect to find that most of the Dems are from states that went for Bush in the last election.

[Ciexyz]

btt

[El Gato]

It seems this guts the entire bill because ANYTHING chan be misinterprited as "participate".

I'm sure it's defined in the bill, most likely as a person who sells firearms to someone they know or should have know was an ineligible person, or to someone they knew or should have know was going to commit a crime with the firearm. Basically if the dealer exercises "due diligence" in verifying the eligibility to purchase a firearm, they'll be OK. Since dealers already have to call in the "instant check", or verify the person has a CHL (in some states), they already are required to exercise due diligence.

[paul51]

Dewine, voting the wrong way, of course

Same with boxer and feinstein voting with the losers except where feinstein didn't bother to show up.

[Cautor]

"Dewine, voting the wrong way, of course"

Looks like Dewine shot his crank off once again. Time to get rid of this faux Republican.

[ExpatGator]

My boys Talent and Bond were on the correct side of every vote today. I am going to give them a feedback call tomorrow and volunteer some time come envelope stuffing season.

[kerryusama04]

What a good day. This goes far on the path of redemption for the party. My two (Bond and Talent) even voted against the trigger locks.

[pillbox_girl]

1. Man the Gun Grabbers have been screaming, crying, and lying about this bill. And a lot more than usual. Why is that? Because this effectively cuts the head of their last best hope for bypassing the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in their jihad to disarm the American People.
2. The trigger locks requirement: Ok, it's unconstitutional, and a further infringement on legal commerce in arms, but given what the gun grabbers wanted to tack onto this bill, it could have been worse. Most of the guns I've bought in the past five years have had some sort of trigger or action lock, and most of the trigger locks were cheap and flimsy enough to be useless, but they probably meet the new requirement. In fact, a S&W pistol came with a trigger lock that couldn't be made to fit the gun; I called them up, and their own armorer could't get it to fit either around the trigger guard either. Does the ammendment specify what qualifies as a "trigger lock"? Will the BATF be able to "interpret" this into a requirement for a mukti-thousand-dollar gun vault, or can we get away with just including a cheap one dollar luggage padlock?
3. What is the deal with the Craig Ammendment (not 1645)? It looks bad from the description. However, given who voted for it and who voted against it, it sure looks like it's a good deal.
4. And speaking of Craig Ammendment 1645, again what's the deal? Isn't this just keeping the whole "Armor Piercing" mythology alive? Do we really need yet another "study" on so called armor piercing bullets? Boxer and Wyden voted against it, so it might be good, but I'm unconvinced.
5. So tell me again how Hitlery is a "moderate"? Any guesses as to what she'll be hunting (and hunting with) in the inevitable photo-op in 2007?
6. Where the hell was Smith? On some votes, he's absent, on others he votes correctly, but on others he votes wrong. I guess it doesn't matter. He permanently lost my vote when he voted to extend the Ugly-Gun-Ban the last time this bill came around. And this sort of spineless whiffle-whaffling isn't helping him one bit.

[calex59]

I don't know about the rest of the states but CA requires you to buy a trigger lock. Big deal. I take mine home and throw them in a box and forget them.

[coloradan]

I take mine to the range and shoot them. I resent being forced to pay for them, however.

[epow]

I know a lot of us feel we "won" today, even though trigger locks have now been imposed on manufactures. I suppose next they will have to be permanently affixed or some other useless B.S.

The bill will go to a Senate-house conference committee to work out the differences in the two versions. Maybe the trigger lock amendment and anything else in the bill we don't like can be modified or eliminated in that conference.

BTW, does anyone have a link to a site where the entire Senate bill as passed can be read? I would like to know what is in those amendments that were agreed to, especially the Craig amendment about collecting compensation for providing criminals with guns. I hope I'm wrong, but that sounds suspiciously like a loophole that an anti-gun judge could drive a truck through.

[Hat-Trick]

I'd expect to find that most of the Dems are from states that went for Bush in the last election.

Ben Nelson (D-NE) almost batted .1000 today. He's more of a conservative than the Junior Senator from Nebraska.

Here's to hoping that DeSwine (RINO-OH) gets the gate in his re-election. How disgusting to call yourself a republican when you vote with the Swimmer on a 2nd Amendment issue.

Great job on this post, Dan!

[cmotormac44]

byrd and rockefeller had to go for this one--wv is an armed state and those folks want to stay free--

[Dan from Michigan]

I'm assuming here (and I just got back from the bar so I shouldn't be doing so) so don't take my word for this.

I think the Craig amendment only allows gun suits when the dealers/manufacturers are breaking criminal law. That's my assumption from CSPAN earlier today. I havven't had a chance to see the bill itself, so I can't say for certain.

Craig's in Idaho, so I don't expect him to give a big loophole like that. That said, I can't believe two senators from Michigan(blue, but a gun state if there ever was one) of all places would vote to ban the .30-30 either.

[Dan from Michigan]

I probably should wait till tomorrow answering since I just got back from the bar, but I'll give it my best shot and hope I don't embarrass myself in the morning. :)

1. Why is that?
If you can't win the right way through the legislature, all that's left is judicial activism, and there it only takes one activist judge like Weinsten of NYC or Reinhardt of the 9th circuit.

2. As for trigger locks, that's easy to answer
Kohl Amendment(trigger locks) - Look up s9114 and s9115 for the exact text

3 and 4. - Unfortunatly, I don't know exactly what either Craig amendment entails as Thomas hasn't given me the text of the bills. If I don't know by Monday, I'll call his office and ask for the specifics.

5. Hitlery is only moderate by the NY Slimes Standards.

6. I beleve Smith had a family committment. Knowing Smith, that could be a good thing. When I turned on CSPAN today, Pat Roberts was on the floor chastising the senate for wasting time with debates that would not change anyone's mind. He then said that he, Feinstein, and one other senator (Smith I think) were leaving later because of family committments. Pat Roberts then stated how he'd vote, but didn't mention Smith and Feinstein's votes. DiFI is obvious. As for Gordon Smith, I remember SAF's Chair a few years back saying he's the best we can get in Oregon and that he's personally pro-gun. This was back in 2001 before that AWB vote, so I don't know what his opinion of him is today.

[Dan from Michigan]

Michigan requires locks as well(ironically as a price to pay for a statewide ban on gun lawsuits.)

I had to sign a form saying that I had a trigger lock when I bought my gun. I don't remember if I really had one or not......;)

[justshutupandtakeit]

Very informative post. Thanks.