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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; everyoneschild; greta; joran; kalpoes; keystonekops; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; richwhitepretty; satish; sybil; twitty; womensissue
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To: Froufrou
"I think Jossy is part of the coverup. I think that's the key Shango could be referring to. His witnesses are the herrings...?"

I tend to agree. For someone who is supposed to be in the know around Aruba and have such nefarious connections, he sure is providing some varying statements regarding the new witnesses. He does seem to play around with semantics as well.
801 posted on 07/30/2005 9:01:12 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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Charlies Croes: About 11:30 (I take it was 11:30 pm Monday night as Charlies Croes met up with the mystery person and the Twitty's after this conversation at *****a gas station in Aruba.) Greta: What did he say to you? Charlies Croes: He told me that he needed my help and I asked him what it was about and he told me that it had something to do with a cellphone and I didn't relate to it anything but work at that point and he said there is a possibility that a phone call was made using one of our phones and I said "ok" and he said it is very very important and I said fine and I asked him to go into further details and he did and I made arrangements to go see him. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts?page=4781#4781 Where is this gas station? Is it the one on Palm Beach across from the halloween warehouse maze? Why were Beth and CC at this gas station? Did the cell phone call lead them to that location. Is it near the abandoned warehouse? Ok... the phone call discussion comes up again in the interview Croes is at the *****gas station with Beth Twitty. Greta asks Croes if the phone call discussion was brought up while talking to Beth at the ******gas station. Croes says yes... Greta says after you listen to the call several times and hung up with the person in the states, what did you do next. After that we spoke for awhile then we left...
802 posted on 07/30/2005 9:03:34 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: bolta_lightnin

This is very interesting. Were you able to find any pictures of this place? At the beginning of the Shango riddle the color Gold was mentioned. Also an unpaved road.

Still searching....


803 posted on 07/30/2005 9:05:18 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: bolta_lightnin

post was a mess, sorry
Where is this gas
station? Is it the one on Palm Beach across from the halloween warehouse maze? Why were Beth
and CC at this gas station? Did the cell phone call lead them to that location. Is it near the
abandoned warehouse MAZE????


804 posted on 07/30/2005 9:06:13 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: theophilusscribe

"Well, it's that old, liberal idea: if you don't call it a crime, you don't have any crime. There is certainly much more there than meets the eye."

Whether or not something IS a crime will depend on your interpretation of the meaning of IS. hehe


805 posted on 07/30/2005 9:08:35 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: maggief

...and Professor Plum in the Study....


806 posted on 07/30/2005 9:12:23 AM PDT by arichtaxpayer (We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.)
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To: texasbluebell
And what about that 16 y.o. girl who last week went missing? Another victim in this "game" they play?

Well, we KNOW who did NOT have anything to do with her disappearance. Joran is in custody and the Kalpoes and P Sloot are being watched.

807 posted on 07/30/2005 9:13:42 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: truthluva

LOL! Too true . . .


808 posted on 07/30/2005 9:14:33 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: varina davis
haven't heard from the other one, who has been very scarce since they were released.

Does anyone know if he is still around there?

809 posted on 07/30/2005 9:16:01 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: texasbluebell

"There's some really bad stuff going on in Aruba."

YES there is!


810 posted on 07/30/2005 9:20:02 AM PDT by Canedawg (modern liberalism is a communist plot)
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To: maggief
We have...... the fisherman who saw a white car at the same time at the beach

They saw the white vehicle between midnight and 5 am

811 posted on 07/30/2005 9:25:37 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: bolta_lightnin; truthluva

Do you guys have links to all of the Shango postings you are providing. If so do you mind providing the links. Thanks.


812 posted on 07/30/2005 9:25:58 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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The abandoned warehouse maze on Palm Beach across from the gas station is called:
"Grand Guignol palace of horrors"
There's that word "PALACE"

WHO has the key to warehouse?

lightnin' is in outer space today with the clues


813 posted on 07/30/2005 9:27:57 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: Rippersnapper
"We have...... the fisherman who saw a white car at the same time at the beach "

" They saw the white vehicle between midnight and 5 am"

The lawyer who mentioned the vehicle was on CNN, and he said "jeep like vehicle". CNN seems to have added 'white'. The fishermen saw a "jeep like vehicle".

814 posted on 07/30/2005 9:31:33 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Yaelle

has very intimate connections to powerful people there and knows what goes on.


Could be, thus, the 'code'. Too fearful to come forward.


815 posted on 07/30/2005 9:34:00 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: monkeywrench
The fishermen saw a "jeep like vehicle".

Right and at the time everyone thought it was the red jeep with the white roof.

816 posted on 07/30/2005 9:36:17 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: bolta_lightnin
WHO has the key to warehouse?

Would Sergio have it? Who owns the property?

817 posted on 07/30/2005 9:37:46 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: monkeywrench

Any news about the pond draining today?


818 posted on 07/30/2005 9:37:54 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: texasbluebell
And what about that 16 y.o. girl who last week went missing? Another victim in this "game" they play?

She was a runaway. She's home now.

819 posted on 07/30/2005 9:38:30 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: TexKat

Hello, TexKat!

You're about the only poster I trust on these threads and I appreciate all the effort you've made in keeping us all informed. But I think the signal/noise ratio has just about forced me to tune out.

I take it that the big news at the moment is that they are draining the pond near the Marriott/Raquetball courts (but that is going painfully slow) and checking out a landfill at much further location on the south side of the isle. More experienced interrogators from Holland are expected to meet with Joran and the Texas Equusearch team are back and assisting with the landfill search.

On the sideliness, a crazy riddle at Shango seems to be perplexing people with clues and a few observers are convinced that Natallee was taken off the island early on to be abused and eventually discarded.

My only question is, what is the FBI's role in all this? It sounds like they are simply going over the evidence that ALE has already oicked over in case they miss something.

Is this an accurate recap for those unable to follow the post-by-post here? What am I missing?

Thanks again for keeping us informed!


820 posted on 07/30/2005 9:40:55 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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