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WSJ: Why the U.S. Wants To End the Link Between Time and Sun - Astronomers Say Wait a Sec
Wall Street Journal ^ | July 29, 2005 | KEITH J. WINSTEIN

Posted on 07/29/2005 6:03:12 AM PDT by OESY

What time is it when the clock strikes half past 62?

Time to change the way we measure time, according to a U.S. government proposal that businesses favor, astronomers abominate and Britain sees as a threat to its venerable standard, Greenwich Mean Time.

Word of the U.S. proposal, made secretly to a United Nations body, began leaking to scientists earlier this month. The plan would simplify the world's timekeeping by making each day last exactly 24 hours. Right now, that's not always the case.

Because the moon's gravity has been slowing down the Earth, it takes slightly longer than 24 hours for the world to rotate completely on its axis. The difference is tiny, but every few years a group that helps regulate global timekeeping, the International Earth Rotation and Reference Systems Service, tells governments, telecom companies, satellite operators and others to add in an extra second to all clocks to keep them in sync. The adjustment is made on New Year's Eve or the last day of June.

But adding these ad hoc "leap seconds" -- the last... in 1998 -- can be a big hassle for computers operating with software programs....

On Jan. 1, 1996, the addition of a leap second made computers at Associated Press Radio crash and start broadcasting the wrong taped programs. In 1997, the Russian global positioning system, known as Glonass, was broken for 20 hours after a transmission to the country's satellites to add a leap second went awry. And in 2003, a leap-second bug made GPS receivers from Motorola Inc. briefly show customers the time as half past 62 o'clock.

...Because of these problems, the U.S. government last year quietly proposed abolishing leap seconds to the International Telecommunications Union, the U.N. body that tells the Earth Rotation Service how to keep time....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: daylightsavings; earth; globalwarming; sun; time
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To: OESY
In 1997, the Russian global positioning system, known as Glonass, was broken for 20 hours after a transmission to the country's satellites to add a leap second went awry.

A Russian military system went awry? Noooo way.

21 posted on 07/29/2005 6:29:01 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: OESY
Hmmm.... "He'll think to change times and laws...."

Sounds like I've read that somewhere.....OH YEAH....Revelation.

22 posted on 07/29/2005 6:29:32 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (Imagine 40,000,000 dead babies in a pile reaching to the sky. Think God hasn't noticed?)
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To: JustAnotherOkie

My vcr says 12:00.


23 posted on 07/29/2005 6:29:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: cripplecreek

and looked like "a string of pearls"...........


24 posted on 07/29/2005 6:29:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? GOOOOGLE your own name. Want to have fun? GOOOOGLE your neighbor's......)
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To: Willie Green; Darksheare
So the Anointed One wants to defy the universal laws of physics to pander to the international banking community?

Troll.
25 posted on 07/29/2005 6:30:35 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

yeah mine says it is 12:00 and it's blinking....


26 posted on 07/29/2005 6:31:08 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: JustAnotherOkie
Does anyone really know what time it is?

You mean right now?

27 posted on 07/29/2005 6:35:38 AM PDT by leftcoaster
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To: Willie Green
Oh give me a break. Science is about measuring, not regulating. It doesn't matter how we define a day, month or year. It's not as if a UN regulation is going to actually have an effect on how the Earth spins and orbits the sun. We could define an 80 hour day and still have no effect. I'm even will to go as far as saying that we could define a 150 hour day while not having the Earth fall into the sun.

My point is that our definitions are for our convenience. And it is more convenient to have a constant 24 hours without pandering to the UN than to have some correction factor that will affect noone's schedule (and it won't affect scientists because they are smart enough to add the correction factor if they need to).
28 posted on 07/29/2005 6:37:38 AM PDT by burzum
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To: jammer
Aren't you getting a little tired of the hackneyed "it's Bush's fault" sarcasm mantra in every damned thread?

You mean the one that's chanted by the 'bot sycophants every time he acts like a bonehead?

Nope.

29 posted on 07/29/2005 6:39:49 AM PDT by Willie Green (s)
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To: jammer

"Aren't you getting a little tired of the hackneyed "it's Bush's fault" sarcasm mantra in every damned thread?"


It's Bush's fault that it's in every damned thread.

(I'm really sorry about that. It's my first time. I'm so immature.)


30 posted on 07/29/2005 6:41:19 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
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To: MikeinIraq

brainwashed lemming.


31 posted on 07/29/2005 6:42:08 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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To: babyface00

None of this matters. We can control the length of the days and exactly how much daylight we receive from the sun at anyone point on the earth by simply manipulating the universe with that creative little tool they called "daylight savings time."

What's the big deal?


32 posted on 07/29/2005 6:43:06 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
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To: Willie Green

ow...

that taught me!!!

LOL

it must REALLY suck to be you right now with the economy growing and jobs being created faster than they are being lost and unemployment going down HUH?


LOL


stupid stupid troll


33 posted on 07/29/2005 6:43:31 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: OESY

I think you left out Uranus. :)


34 posted on 07/29/2005 6:44:07 AM PDT by Rocket1968 (Durbin must resign - NOW!)
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To: Willie Green
I think your boy AlGore wants to make these endangered, but certainly all TROLLS are endangered on FR....


35 posted on 07/29/2005 6:45:48 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: Willie Green; MikeinIraq
..Dubya is no different than Algore when it comes to Big Government junk science...

Politics is lots of fun, but there are a few things that actually don't have anything to do with politics. The question here is  whether we want to say 24 hours is equal to an earth's rotation, equal to 1/365.25 of a trip around the sun, or to always be the same amount of time regardless of the earth's and the sun's tiny variations..

We're taking a vote.   Lots of people and I vote for it being the same. 

36 posted on 07/29/2005 6:46:34 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Tenacious 1

Personally, I don't care, and there isn't much I could do about it if I did care, but I'm curious what, exactly, the U.N. is attempting to do.

At least if the U.N. is worrying about trivial things like this, they'll have less time to do the really dangerous things they're usually contemplating.


37 posted on 07/29/2005 6:47:29 AM PDT by babyface00
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To: babyface00
Or, are they going to take the Earth's rotation around the sun as a year, and calculate back from there, which would make midnight creap backwards ever so slowly over the years away from the actual midnight based on the earth's rotation around its axis?

It's the latter.

The proposal calls for adding a "leap hour" every 500 to 600 years to compensate for sunrise getting later over time.

Despite the whining of the Euro-weenies, it would be possible to maintain two time systems, one with the occasional leap second and one with the leap hour, simultaneously so the world's largest telescopes can still function normally.

38 posted on 07/29/2005 6:48:16 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible

Thanks!

I guess none of us will live long enough to notice the difference anyhow...


39 posted on 07/29/2005 6:49:18 AM PDT by babyface00
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To: MikeinIraq; Willie Green
Gentlemen, gentlemen!

Mike, every website needs it's provocateur and Willie is a fine one at that.  Give him some props.

Willie, if you want to be a provocateur, you gotta be able to take some lumps without getting personal.  Mike's alright.

40 posted on 07/29/2005 6:52:35 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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