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Posted on 07/29/2005 4:49:49 AM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
Jewish World Review July 29, 2005
/ 22 Tamuz, 5765
JWR COLUMNIST OFF THE AIR AFTER ABC/DISNEY IS INTIMIDATED BY CAIR
By Binyamin L. Jolkovsky
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Yesterday Michael Graham wrote in his column: "I take no pleasure in saying it. It pains me to think it. I could very well lose my job in talk radio over admitting it. But it is the plain truth: Islam is a terror organization."
And then his fears came true.
Hours after his column appeared here, Graham, a mid-morning talker at WMAL in Washington, D.C., was suspended without pay pending an investigation.
Graham's column and previous on-air comments were not the first time he's had a run-in with CAIR.
In an April, 2004 column, he details other attempts by the Muslim group to silence him.
(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...
That's a really nice touch, using the Jihadists' research and website against them. Bravo!
"There are always a few exceptions to any statement."
Not enough to make his statement false.
Does anyone here have a sponsor list? The only one I can remember is the gutter cover company. Is Whey-Natural on the list, too? Calling the sponsors and raising cain is the most effective way to bring pressure on the station manager.
I kind of agree. Though I'm not of the opinion that Islam is a terrorist organization (like Al Qaida), I nevertheless think Islam is heinously guilty, tainted, etc., by its millions of terrorist-sympathizing Muslims. I think the world deserves to hear Graham's thoughts and talk about them - Islam isn't talking about them, they are silencing him. Islam is as guilty of these terror attacks as the German citizens were of allowing Hitler to rise to power - they are guilty through inaction.
"Thorny ain't it"
Hey, just because the guy doesn't subscribe to your own personal Talking Points Memo doesn't mean he's not a conservative, or a good person, or a loyal citizen. He shouldn't be treated like an outcast - nor should you be taking any comfort with the enemy (CAIR). That said, though I think you're totally wrong here, thanks for being a good citizen - I hope you never get fired for being a good citizen and I'll write letters for you too, the way I did for Graham.
Great. Going to make some calls this afternoon.
I wrote two emails earlier this evening. The first was to WMAL regarding their asinine suspension of Michael Graham. The second was to the Islamofascists at CAIR about their asinine action alert to fire Michael Graham. Hopefully, the Islamofascists and the slimy, jello-spined corporate tools won't get him permanently off the air.
Welcome to your future dhimitude.
PING!
Very good point. Also, it is similar to saying that Irish Catholics are/were all terrorists.
That is both liberal moral relativism and incorrect. The IRA has been a Marxist organization since the 1960s. They use the cloak of Irish nationalism to further their ends, while murdering immigration reform advocates.
We repeat, truth is a wesstern concept when it comes to Islam. We will not get them to accept the concept of truth essential to honest debate so long as we allow them to have us by the oil. This new bill will not help; it's a joke.
You can absolutely fire someone for saying stupid things, it just depends on whether they speak the truth.
Islam IS a murder cult, regardless of whether there are friendly individuals who hold to that religion.
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No similarity at all. Suppose that it true (and I am not saying it is) that Irish Catholics are sympathetic to terrorists in their midst. Is this because they are Irish or because they are Catholic? Clearly the first: no other Catholics, anywhere in the world, are or were blowing up buses. The Pope never proclaimed, as do Imams EVERYWHERE in the world, that blowing up babies is justified when it occurs on "occupied" territories.
In contrast, American imams urge us to "understand" the Sep 11 attackers, and poor "Palestinian" people that are "humiliated" daily by the Israelis (the Joooss). You have a religion that justifies killing if you feel humiliated --- and, yes, that is not just the current feeling among Muslims; it endured over 1400 years.
So, even if it were true that all Irish Catholics were sympathetic with terrorists in their midst, it would be explained by the fact that they are Irish, not that they are Catholic. Of the 31 armed disputed around the world 28 involve Muslims: against America and England, against Buddhists in Thailand -- -you name it. That's the difference.
Islamofascists are terrorists.
Muslims who do not denounce Islamofascists are not terrorists. They may be cowards or they may be sympathetic, we cannot read their minds and souls, but I would say that Islam is a religion, not a terrorist organization. When the Soviet Union made communism a state religion it did not make everyone who lived behind the Iron Curtain our enemy. PS: I agree with Ann Coulter's remark made in Sept 2001 - One way to end the terrorism is to convert them all to Christianity. THAT would be the ideal solution!
When the Soviet Union made communism a state religion it did not make everyone who lived behind the Iron Curtain our enemy.
PS: I agree with Ann Coulter's remark made in Sept 2001 - One way to end the terrorism is to convert them all to Christianity. THAT would be the ideal solution!
Not quite. You confuse an coherent group of people with actions of individuals. Not all members of Hitler's SS personally killed other people. Nevertheless, SS is a murderous organization. What make an organization deserved of a characterization --- terrorist, murderous, peace-loving or any other --- is whether that organization (i) adheres to a stated philosophy and (ii) allows SOME of its members to promulgate the corresponding actions and assists them in doing so in some way. Conversely, an organization that (i) abhors certain philosophy and (ii) punishes its individuals that act on that philosophy is NOT deserved of the characterization.
Apply this test to SS. It (i) said it wanted to murder Jews and Gypsies and (ii) directed some of its members to do so. It is a murderous organization.
Apply the same test to Islam. It (i) is a militant religion --- its and has always been; no person is allowed to leave Islam and remain alive, no land that ever ONCE was under Islam is allowed to revert to any other religion, etc. (ii) allows and directs its members to undertake jihad, which for all the talk of being a "personal struggle" has always been directed at the infidels.
Apply the converse to the second test. In the past 50 years since they chose the path of terrorism, (i) Islam has never proclaimed terrorism to be unconditionally wrong, (ii) they have never excommunicated or took any other punishing action against the terrorist cells in their midst. One can conclude that the entire Islamic world is condoning and supporting (to various degree) terrorism.
When saying that "Muslims who do not denounce Islamofascists are not terrorists," you make a similar error: one need not kill to be a terrorist; one can merely abet in such killing. In this country one can be charged with murder even if she did not pull the trigger (although the law differentiates the degree). Thus,the one blowing up babies is a more active terrorist and the one who merely abets him is a less active terrorist (and, you can perhaps argue, guilty to a lesser extent) but he is a terrorist nonetheless. And, recall that the argument is about not specific individuals but whether a certain "organization" can be classed as terrorist.
"I would say that Islam is a religion, not a terrorist organization." The first part is absolutely correct of course.
Do you differentiate Christianity and the Church? You probably do. Christianity is a religion, philosophy, world outlook. Adherents of it believe that it was handed down by G-d himself. In contrast, the Church is comprised of human beings, which are fallible. When pedophile priest molest children it is not Christianity that does so, but those specific members of that Church.
The same applies to Islam, but what confused some people is its horizontal organization: there is no Pope, there is no Archbishop of Canterbury, there is no Chief Rabbi. Every time it is convenient for Islamist, they say, "Oh, that imam just made a mistake." But, again, we never hear of excommunication or any other punishment for these people; we here of great and widespread help to them. Recall, moreover, that these are people that do not hesitate to kill a 16-year-old girl for... being raped by her uncle. They chop off hands for petty theft. But blowing up babies on a bus in Jerusalem has NEVER deserved even spanking.
Because of its horizontal structure, people use the word Islam when referring to BOTH the religion and the church. If it helps you to be more precise, we are at war with THE CHURCH of Islam. The Church of Islam --- yes, in its entirety ---has chosen a path of terrorism for the past 50 years (starting with Algiers, then Israel and Kashmir, then Europe, then U.S.). At the present time, it is certainly a terrorist organization. (You may also reflect on the fact that of the four Orthodox Caliphs that inherited Islam from Mohammad himself --- an equivalent of Christ's Disciples --- three were murdered --- two, if I recall correctly in a Mosque, while praying).
Thus, if it helps you to avoid confusion of terms, substitute "Islam" with "Church of Islam," and you will see what people mean when they say it is, at least presently, a terrorist organization.
"When the Soviet Union made communism a state religion it did not make everyone who lived behind the Iron Curtain our enemy." Correct. But this did not negate the fact that the Soviet Union was an imperialist, murderous "organization."
"PS: I agree with Ann Coulter's remark made in Sept 2001 - One way to end the terrorism is to convert them all to Christianity. THAT would be the ideal solution! "
Really? Are YOU now showing your "democratic" colors? To stop terrorism it would suffice to convert them to Buddhism or Judaism, so you belief is logically faulty.
But you would impose YOUR religion on others in a heartbeat, won't you?
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