Muslims no longer are too blind to see

Thank you for the welcome, and its good to see another here with fine tastes in music. :-)

You're welcome. I love the oldies. :o) When music was music, and people actually were singing. I don't like this rap stuff at all. They just talk, and most don't sing.

Islam is the creation of demons(the arabs call them "the gen") who influenced Muhammed. It is indeed evil to the core and is one of Satan's greatests tools at the moment.

We agree about that too. I call them "the son's of Satan." It's demonic, and pure evil. A human could not do the things they do. You can see it in their eyes. They have that "nobody is home" (blank) look in their eyes.

That's why Rushdies' book about Muhammed and the Koran is titled, "The Satanic Verses".

Did you read his book? I never did but I wish I had. Of course if you know the Bible, you KNOW that scripture from the Qu'ran is totally Satanic!

There are two solutions to this problem.
1) Destroy islam and all muslims

2)muslims can reform islam from within and make it into something that can co-exist peaceably with all other people.

We have the means to tackle the first approach. They have the means to try the second approach. The time of chosing is not long.

On your Number 2, how can they reform islam from within, it is based on the koran, what are you going to do, throw the whole thing out and start again?? The problem is the koran, when they realize they have been duped, they'll first get mad, then get rid of it. But it will take many years. If it ever happens.

Hi there.

Did you have a few fourex for me?

Anhow, I just wanted to alert you to an old inb Warraq link that I came over yesterday. In case you haven't seen it, you might find it interesting.

The writer of this piece says:

"How can the murder of the innocent be perpetuated in the name of a religion that likens the loss of one human life to the loss of humanity at large?" she asked. "How can Islam be said to sanction such acts of aggression when it openly forbids revenge and declares in no less than five Koranic chapters that no bearer of a burden bears the burden of another?"

The problem with the "killing all of humanity" quote often thrown around, is that it is taken horribly out of context:

“For instance, after September 11, 2001, many Muslims and apologists of Islam glibly came out with the following Koranic quote to show that Islam and the Koran disapproved of violence and killing: Sura V.32: “Whoever killed a human being shall be looked upon as though he had killed all mankind ”.

Unfortunately, these wonderful sounding words are being quoted out of context. Here is the entire quote: V.32: “That was why We laid it down for the Israelites that whoever killed a human being, except as a punishment for murder or other villainy in the land, shall be looked upon as though he had killed all mankind; and that whoever saved a human life shall be regarded as though he had saved all mankind. Our apostles brought them veritable proofs: yet it was not long before many of them committed great evils in the land. Those that make war against God and His apostle and spread disorder shall be put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the country.”

The supposedly noble sentiments are in fact a warning to Jews. Behave or else is the message. Far from abjuring violence, these verses aggressively point out that anyone opposing the Prophet will be killed, crucified, mutilated and banished!“ ibn Warraq

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/004246.php

Cheers.

"On your Number 2, how can they reform islam from within, it is based on the koran, what are you going to do, throw the whole thing out and start again?? The problem is the koran, when they realize they have been duped, they'll first get mad, then get rid of it. But it will take many years. If it ever happens."

Reform can come even with the koran, muslims could simply decide to ignore large parts of it. It's happened before with scripture. A good deal of the bible is ignored even by believing Christians. When was the last time you saw someone put to death for working on the sabbath or disrespecting his parents? Do you know anyone who would claim that wearing a wool blend suit was a sin?

The reform can come if a muslim Martin Luther could get an audience and start a trend. I don't think it likely but it's possible

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