FINAL CAFTA VOTE ROLL CALL - How did your Congressman Vote?

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[Happy2BMe]

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 443(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)
      H R 3045      RECORDED VOTE      28-Jul-2005      12:03 AM
      QUESTION:  On Passage
      BILL TITLE: Dominican Republic-Central America-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act

	Ayes	Noes	PRES	NV
Republican	202	27		2
Democratic	15	187
Independent		1
TOTALS	217	215		2

---- AYES    217 ---

Aderholt Akin Alexander Bachus Baker Barrett (SC) Bartlett (MD) Barton (TX) Bass Bean Beauprez Biggert Bilirakis Bishop (UT) Blackburn Blunt Boehlert Boehner Bonilla Bonner Bono Boozman Bradley (NH) Brady (TX) Brown (SC) Brown-Waite, Ginny Burgess Burton (IN) Buyer Calvert Camp Cannon Cantor Carter Castle Chabot Chocola Cole (OK) Conaway Cooper Cox Crenshaw Cuellar Culberson Cunningham Davis (KY) Davis, Tom Deal (GA) DeLay Dent Diaz-Balart, L. Diaz-Balart, M. Dicks Doolittle Drake Dreier Duncan Ehlers Emerson English (PA) Everett Feeney Ferguson Fitzpatrick (PA) Flake Foley Forbes Fortenberry Fossella Franks (AZ) Frelinghuysen Gallegly Gerlach

Gibbons Gilchrest Gillmor Gingrey Gohmert Goodlatte Granger Graves Green (WI) Hall Harris Hart Hastert Hastings (WA) Hayes Hayworth Hefley Hensarling Herger Hinojosa Hobson Hoekstra Hulshof Hyde Inglis (SC) Issa Istook Jefferson Jenkins Johnson (CT) Johnson (IL) Johnson, Sam Keller Kelly Kennedy (MN) King (IA) King (NY) Kingston Kirk Kline Knollenberg Kolbe Kuhl (NY) LaHood Latham LaTourette Leach Lewis (CA) Lewis (KY) Linder Lucas Lungren, Daniel E. Manzullo Marchant Matheson McCaul (TX) McCrery McKeon McMorris Meeks (NY) Mica Miller (FL) Miller, Gary Moore (KS) Moran (KS) Moran (VA) Murphy Musgrave Myrick Neugebauer Northup Nunes Nussle

Ortiz Osborne Oxley Pearce Pence Peterson (PA) Petri Pickering Pitts Platts Poe Pombo Porter Price (GA) Pryce (OH) Putnam Radanovich Ramstad Regula Reichert Renzi Reynolds Rogers (AL) Rogers (KY) Rogers (MI) Rohrabacher Ros-Lehtinen Royce Ryan (WI) Ryun (KS) Saxton Schwarz (MI) Sensenbrenner Sessions Shadegg Shaw Shays Sherwood Shimkus Shuster Skelton Smith (TX) Snyder Sodrel Souder Stearns Sullivan Sweeney Tanner Terry Thomas Thornberry Tiahrt Tiberi Towns Turner Upton Walden (OR) Walsh Wamp Weldon (FL) Weldon (PA) Weller Westmoreland Whitfield Wicker Wilson (NM) Wilson (SC) Wolf Young (AK) Young (FL)

---- NOES    215 ---

Abercrombie Ackerman Allen Andrews Baca Baird Baldwin Barrow Becerra Berkley Berman Berry Bishop (GA) Bishop (NY) Blumenauer Boren Boswell Boucher Boustany Boyd Brady (PA) Brown (OH) Brown, Corrine Butterfield Capito Capps Capuano Cardin Cardoza Carnahan Carson Case Chandler Clay Cleaver Clyburn Coble Conyers Costa Costello Cramer Crowley Cubin Cummings Davis (AL) Davis (CA) Davis (FL) Davis (IL) Davis (TN) DeFazio DeGette Delahunt DeLauro Dingell Doggett Doyle Edwards Emanuel Engel Eshoo Etheridge Evans Farr Fattah Filner Ford Foxx Frank (MA) Garrett (NJ) Gonzalez Goode Gordon

Green, Al Green, Gene Grijalva Gutierrez Gutknecht Harman Hastings (FL) Herseth Higgins Hinchey Holden Holt Honda Hooley Hostettler Hoyer Hunter Inslee Israel Jackson (IL) Jackson-Lee (TX) Jindal Johnson, E. B. Jones (NC) Jones (OH) Kanjorski Kaptur Kennedy (RI) Kildee Kilpatrick (MI) Kind Kucinich Langevin Lantos Larsen (WA) Larson (CT) Lee Levin Lewis (GA) Lipinski LoBiondo Lofgren, Zoe Lowey Lynch Mack Maloney Markey Marshall Matsui McCarthy McCollum (MN) McCotter McDermott McGovern McHenry McHugh McIntyre McKinney McNulty Meehan Meek (FL) Melancon Menendez Michaud Millender-McDonald Miller (MI) Miller (NC) Miller, George Mollohan Moore (WI) Murtha Nadler

Napolitano Neal (MA) Ney Norwood Oberstar Obey Olver Otter Owens Pallone Pascrell Pastor Paul Payne Pelosi Peterson (MN) Pomeroy Price (NC) Rahall Rangel Rehberg Reyes Ross Rothman Roybal-Allard Ruppersberger Rush Ryan (OH) Sabo Salazar Sánchez, Linda T. Sanchez, Loretta Sanders Schakowsky Schiff Schwartz (PA) Scott (GA) Scott (VA) Serrano Sherman Simmons Simpson Slaughter Smith (NJ) Smith (WA) Solis Spratt Stark Strickland Stupak Tancredo Tauscher Taylor (MS) Thompson (CA) Thompson (MS) Tierney Udall (CO) Udall (NM) Van Hollen Velázquez Visclosky Wasserman Schultz Waters Watson Watt Waxman Weiner Wexler Woolsey Wu Wynn

---- NOT VOTING    2 ---

Davis, Jo Ann

Taylor (NC)

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[Dan from Michigan]

Congressman Mike's going to get a call from me on this.

[DumpsterDiver]

Wonder if his abstension was greased with a little lard?

I think both of those abstaining got something in return -- lard being the obvious choice. :^)

[TheSpottedOwl]

Get ready for the flood of illegals from Central America. The flood of illegals from Mexico into California has helped close 12 major hospitals in 18 months. 95% of all murder warrants in LA County are for illegals. Maybe Central Americans won't commit as many crimes that native Americans are unwilling to commit : )

You're preaching to the choir, brother : ) Knowing how jealously Mexico guards her southern border, this will get interesting.

People refuse to understand the economic impact on our infrastructure, as it hasn't yet affected them personally. So they champion these suicidal economic packs, see nothing wrong with illegal aliens flooding this country, and try and shut us up when we point out what this is doing to our national security, and economic future.

[Alberta's Child]

Free trade only works between free economies.

Can you give a specific example of a "free economy," and list some of the characteristics that define it?

[Ex-expromissor]

"Did Congress not just vote to ratify the agreement...How was Congress left out of the process? Good lord, this is law school 101 (or civics 101 for that matter)."

And you get an "F".

The Constitution clearly gives the authority to Congress alone to regulate trade with foreign countries. It does not give Congress the authority to vote their authority over to the WTO... which is exactly what they did last night. The language is quite clear... Unless you are a lawyer or something. :-)

[international american]

"NAFTA had nothing to do with the flood of illegals. This is one of the most absurd arguments on the entire debate."

Yeah it would be had I said that, which I did not. I was comparing lies out of D.C. politicians, not NAFTA. The reason we are doing well right now is due entirely to 40 year low interest rates, and inflated house values.

[Happy2BMe]

Last night was a great victory for the Democratic party.

And the ironic thing about it is it was handed to them by the GOP.

[Colorado Doug]

I found it pretty funny that somehow Western Mich U was going to outsource custodial services to Mexico.

No need for that when undocumented immigrants will do the work that Americans are not willing to do, such as custodial services.

[Black Tooth]

All this doesn't matter. The fix was in. Done deal. This was going to pass no matter what. It's all part of the plan.

[B4Ranch]

""The Congress shall have Power To... regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes...""

CAFTA trade decisions will be determined by an appointed three person Regulatory Board, not a one of them need be American or appointed by the US Congress.

[Commander Salamander]

Wow, this one of the most spirited debates I've seen in a while! Even Mud Slinging! LOL!

All we need now is a quiet debate on Border Patrol or Evolution/Creation to add to the mix.

[Alberta's Child]

That's an excellent post. I seem to remember hearing somewhere that the bizarre combination of circumstances you describe was the inspiration for John Mellencamp's song, "Pink Houses" back in the 1980s. Mellencamp described a road trip he took in the Midwest, and the one lasting impression he had was of small towns where people lived in run-down pastel-colored houses, seemingly on the edge of survival -- but with satellite dishes on top of the houses and big new cars parked next to them.

[international american]

As an international businessman, I am appaled at the ignorance, naivete, and obtusness of many of my fellow Americans. Asia is kicking our a$$ from Malaysia to Singapore, to China. Americans just don't travel very much
and fall easy prey to propaganda out of DC.
We have been screwed on every "so called" free trade agreement we entered into.

[Ex-expromissor]

"CAFTA trade decisions will be determined by an appointed three person Regulatory Board, not a one of them need be American or appointed by the US Congress."

Exactly my point... The Constitution is usurped yet again. Nothing new here...

[captnorb]

As a small manufacturer of 24 employees servicing other companies in 2002 we are now a company of 4 employees. We couldn't compete with $0.38 to $0.72 (we pay more than that in taxes) per hour wages from China, Africa and South America. The remaining companies that we worked for have already sent that machinery to China and So. America. Guess where all the jobs have gone. Then in the great wisdom of our government we decided to help the less than fortunate to get them off welfare. This group is supposed to be self sufficient.....No way; they pay their people minimum wage, under cut the private sector wages by 60-70% and collect our taxes to subsidize this jobs for the poor all the while creating more joblessness of willing to work individuals.....

Thank you Cafta; we have just been advised that one of our customers is going to So. America to manufacture some additional items they kept in the states.........Everything is just fine....The trans national companies will do well. By the way, our state just awarded a contract for prison wear ($300,00.00) to an importing shell company that undercut a local company by $100,000.00..State says sorry; it's cheap. And why? Try to operate a manufacturing business in the US with all the taxes, rules, regulations etc. For those in office land you have no idea what is required out here in the real world.

We hope we won't have to buy any weapons from China to defend ourselves from China.

[TheSpottedOwl]

As long as California and other socialist states continue to grow social programs faster than the economy of Mexico (which is growing, very very well mind you), there will be large numbers of people who want to come in.

Vicious circle. The more we turn a blind eye towards the crisis level of illegal immigration, the more money it costs to provide medical care etc, for these people. Do you advocate not providing social services to illegals?

The economy of Mexico is rolling along just great for certain people. Remittances from their displaced population lines the pockets of the corrupt ruling class, while American taxpayers foot the bill for their hospital stays, their children's education, and the aftermath of their criminals on this soil. CAFTA is but another socialist experiment in which the American taxpayer will be squeezed further. Redistributing wealth only works for a select few, the rest of us will pay dearly.

[Happy2BMe]

The debate is essentially over.

The real damage will begin once the international panel begins it's implementation of international laws that will take precedent over United States laws thanks to CAFTA.

All you have to do is look at the effects NAFTA has had on this country to see where CAFTA will take us.

[international american]

"We hope we won't have to buy any weapons from China to defend ourselves from China."

R O T F L M A O

[Tulane]

Again, they have the power to delegate that authority, which they did...and final passage of the bill was utterly in their hands and no other arm of government...

[Tulane]

They delegated that authority...why don't you get someone ti sue the Congress and claim it was an unconstitutional delegation of power...