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Mark Steyn: Wake up, folks — it’s war!
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 07/30/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/28/2005 6:38:08 AM PDT by Pokey78

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To: GOPJ


It's a Churchill quote, btw.


41 posted on 07/28/2005 9:03:43 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: r9etb
but rather the ideology and practitioners of Wahabism

Victor David Hansen was a guest on Savage the other night (Savage has been drawing better guests lately), and he made the argument that it isn't even about Wahabism. It's about the same culture that in the past used Pan-Arabism, Baathism, and Naziism to try to gain back the dominance of the glory days of the Ottoman Empire. Actually, he didn't mention the Ottoman Empire, that just occured to me. But his point was that they will ride whatever wave is available to help them acheive their goal, which is the destruction of Western Civ.

He said the point was well illustrated by Saddam who, starting as a communist, was building mosques by the end.

42 posted on 07/28/2005 9:19:32 AM PDT by johnb838 (Sharia: It's not a culture, it's a cancer.)
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To: Pokey78

"‘The right to live. The right to go to work on the Underground. The right to have an ID card.’ Human rights-wise, that last one is right up there with the right to be subject to confiscatory taxation."



ROTFL!

Steyn was on, as usual.

Thanks for not excerpting.


43 posted on 07/28/2005 9:20:25 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Pokey78
Softly-softly won’t catchee monkey.
Hate speech

Slo-mo conflicts are the hardest to win, in part because in advanced societies the public finds it hard to stay focused.
Perhaps why al-q likes to take a year off here and there

If the demented anti-Zionism of the British and Continental media these last four years ever had a point, it doesn’t now, when you’re in the early stages of the Israelification of Europe — and, in one of fate’s better jests, in this scenario you’re the Jews.
Good one. SCHADENFREUDE!


44 posted on 07/28/2005 9:20:26 AM PDT by johnb838 (Sharia: It's not a culture, it's a cancer.)
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To: Pokey78

If I ever have a daughter I think I'll name her Sharia. It sounds like a nice name.


45 posted on 07/28/2005 9:21:00 AM PDT by johnb838 (Sharia: It's not a culture, it's a cancer.)
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46 posted on 07/28/2005 9:23:16 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Pokey78
Excellent article!

But honestly, what a pathetic example of pointless gesture politics: if you’re a fancypants North American business traveller in town for less than 24 hours and splashing a ton of hard currency around the West End, the Home Office goes through a big hoop-de-doo about saying you’ve no entitlement to welfare. But if you’re a Somali and you want to live in public housing at public expense for six years while you fine-tune your plot to blow up Warren Street Tube station, pas de problème!

And this was one of the best parts!

47 posted on 07/28/2005 9:28:42 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (PC KILLS)
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To: Sabramerican

Wars you win, struggles you wage.


48 posted on 07/28/2005 9:37:42 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: johnb838

Interesting post. Thanks for the insights.


49 posted on 07/28/2005 9:49:29 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Pokey78
Muslims vs Buddhists in Thailand, Muslims vs Hindus in Kashmir, Muslims vs Jews in the Holy Land, Muslims vs Russians in Chechnya, Muslims vs Christians in Africa

Does anyone else here see the common thread here?

50 posted on 07/28/2005 10:04:36 AM PDT by zeugma (Democrats and muslims are varelse...)
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings; Pokey78

Ping


51 posted on 07/28/2005 10:05:34 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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read later


52 posted on 07/28/2005 10:06:51 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Pokey78
Thank you so much.

The last paragraph gave my goosebumps chills. Liberals - unfortunately including Blair - are not realistic in facing the fact that this is a war with an enemy, not a crime family dealing drugs.

One reason they cannot accept that reality is it means one awful confrontation for them and their hand held mirrors. They are no longer young, wallowing in the sixties of peace, love and rock & roll haze. It is time to grow up and face reality.
53 posted on 07/28/2005 10:08:11 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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‘If you’re looking for “root causes” for terrorism, European-sized welfare programmes are a good place to start. Maybe if they had to go out to work, they’d join the Daily Mirror and become the next John Pilger. Or maybe they’d open a drive-thru Halal Burger chain and make a fortune. Instead, Tony Blair pays Islamic fundamentalists in London to stay at home, fester and plot.’

Exactly. Idleness is the devil's workshop ping.

54 posted on 07/28/2005 10:17:54 AM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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bflr


55 posted on 07/28/2005 10:36:02 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: Alberta's Child
As fascism and communism were in their day, Islamism is now the ideology of choice for the world’s grievance-mongers.

The most destructive aspect of a nanny-state welfare system is that it cultivates large numbers of useless malcontents.

We must remember that it is the left in this country, really just underground Communists, who foment much of this discontent. That is their MO all over the world. Often their tactic is not to find a grievance but to create a grievance.

The poor have been with us forever and being poor in itself does not bring discontent. Most of the world has been poor for its entire history. As long as there is not starvation, poverty is routinely tolerated. By simply following the dictates of the Bible, or any religion other than Islam, it is apparent that happiness is not in worldly possessions or positions of power. Being content with poverty is not an aberation of human nature.

But let someone come on the scene and start telling you how terribly you are being treated by the rich and powerful and pretty soon many will become unhappy with their lot in life, a lot they were content with shortly before. Before long they have aggressive discontent with the powers that be. The agitators then use this discontent to gain power for themselves.

This present wave of Wahhabism is directly connected to the rise in Communism, which incidentally does parallel the end of WWI, and its cousin Nazism. The Nazis took an active role in the ME before and during WWII and the Communists took up the slack afterward. Ever since the Muslims have been imbued with an active hatred of democracy, and therefore, the West and Israel.

The Communists aren't dead, they are just playing dead and operating in stealth around the world, no where stronger than in this country and specifically in the Democrat Party and even more specifically through Hillaryski. The Wahhabis a just their latest surrogates.

56 posted on 07/28/2005 10:45:41 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: johnb838
It's about the same culture that in the past used Pan-Arabism, Baathism, and Naziism to try to gain back the dominance of the glory days of the Ottoman Empire. Actually, he didn't mention the Ottoman Empire, that just occured to me. But his point was that they will ride whatever wave is available to help them acheive their goal, which is the destruction of Western Civ.

Today that would be the Communists. In this country they masquerade as Democrats.

57 posted on 07/28/2005 10:48:23 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Pokey78

Great article. The West doesn't yet realize, or care, that this is a fight to the death.


58 posted on 07/28/2005 10:49:02 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Why are the Western nations acting like they want this conflict to bring them down? Is it just multiculturalism gone haywire? Or is it a "Phoenix" scenario they're looking for?

Actually, it is the Communists who are reenacting the Phoenix scenario and they are the ones trying to bring down Western civilization. Multiculturalism is simply one of their tactics.

Who keeps the racial pots boiling? Who promotes, no insists upon, political correctness and multiculturalism? Who divides women from men? Who keeps the poor in poverty with programs supposedly designed to get them out of it but is really just an extension of big government?

The answer in this country is the Democrats. The Democrats are following the principles of Communism and have strong ties to Communism, though they will scream if you confront them. The Democrats are our enemies just like their allies the terrorists. We should treat them as such.

59 posted on 07/28/2005 10:58:00 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: r9etb
You could have asked the same question to the Roman Empire. It's decadence.

As I just said above, it is the Communists. The Roman empire was pagan and persecuted the Christians. With no abiding moral principles which stand independently of the government, a society will crumble on its own.

Who is fighting overtime to rid our country of religion, especially Christianity? No prayer in schools, no Ten Commandments, abortion, promotion of homosexuality, moral relativism, etc. It is the Democrat Party, performing as a stand in for the Communist Party, and we should stop skirting the issue. The Democrats are our enemies and must be treated as such.

60 posted on 07/28/2005 11:05:23 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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