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Mark Steyn: Wake up, folks — it’s war!
The Spectator (U.K.) ^
| 07/30/05
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 07/28/2005 6:38:08 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
No it's not.
It's "A global struggle against violent extremism."
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posted on
07/28/2005 7:37:09 AM PDT
by
Sabramerican
(Sarcasm/Some here don't get it unless you spell it out)
To: PetroniusMaximus
Why are the Western nations acting like they want this conflict to bring them down? You could have asked the same question to the Roman Empire. It's decadence. Confronted with a threat, decadent cultures tend to navel-gaze, and to assume that the other side is just like them. The misapprehension that the other side wants to be left alone leades to a tendency to ignore, rather than to deal with the threat.
Steyn, BTW, nails the threat: it's not Islam per se, but rather the ideology and practitioners of Wahabism. Deal with those nice people, and the rest (and majority) of Islam will eventually emerge from the 7th Century.
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posted on
07/28/2005 7:42:52 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: PetroniusMaximus
Why are the Western nations acting like they want this conflict to bring them down?I was reading Frederick Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom" the other day and in it he posits that after WWI we became what we defeated in otherwords Nichean nihilists. IOW The west is a suicidal culture intent on ending itself. Jihad is just the latest, newest tool.
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posted on
07/28/2005 7:47:20 AM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
To: dubyaismypresident
*** just the latest, newest tool.***
Cultural death wish?
To: PetroniusMaximus
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posted on
07/28/2005 7:51:03 AM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
To: dubyaismypresident
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posted on
07/28/2005 7:57:54 AM PDT
by
Txsleuth
To: Pokey78
...the fact is that the jihad has held out a long time against very tough enemies. If youre not shy about taking on the Israelis and Russians, why wouldnt you fancy your chances against the Belgians and Spaniards? Steyn has once again boiled this complex war into a single, well reasoned column which should be required reading by every govenment employee (as well as regular citizen) in the West. How does he do it?
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:14:14 AM PDT
by
Gritty
("Madrid,London and the Theo Van Gogh murder are the opening shots of a European civil war-Mark Steyn)
To: timsbella
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:18:15 AM PDT
by
Pokey78
(‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
To: Pokey78
Bumpety Bump Steyn to the top ping...
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:20:41 AM PDT
by
Experiment 6-2-6
(When the disbeliever sees this, he will say, 'How nice if I was also turned into sand.')
To: Alberta's Child
How idiotic is it for a country to fight a stupid "war on terror" while at the same time helping to promote it and finance it through its own welfare system foreign aid?
To: Sabramerican
Jihad IS WWIII
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:23:42 AM PDT
by
AFPhys
((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
To: Pokey78
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:30:02 AM PDT
by
rock58seg
(RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!)
To: Pokey78
Please add me to your Steyn ping list!
Regards,
TS
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:36:56 AM PDT
by
The Shrew
(www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
To: dd5339; cavtrooper21
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:43:35 AM PDT
by
Vic3O3
(Jeremiah 31:16-17 (KJV))
To: Pokey78
Four days after Mr de Menezes became the most famous foreigner in the United Kingdom, Her Majestys Government is unable to give a definitive answer on his immigration status.Hmmmmmmmm
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:43:49 AM PDT
by
AmishDude
(Join the Amishdude fan club: "LOL, you have a great sense of humor." -- msmagoo54)
To: Pokey78
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:44:37 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
To: Pokey78
pay as you explode To add further insult, after they tax you to finance the Jihad, they vote to confiscate your firearms and outlaw defending your home or person.
Socialism Sucks.
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:47:42 AM PDT
by
xsrdx
(Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
To: The Shrew
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:50:57 AM PDT
by
Pokey78
(‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
To: Pokey78
Ummmmm, Radical Muslims don't seem to get along with anyone...
And whatever ones opinion of the various local conflicts around the world Muslims vs Buddhists in Thailand, Muslims vs Hindus in Kashmir, Muslims vs Jews in the Holy Land, Muslims vs Russians in Chechnya, Muslims vs Christians in Africa the fact is that the jihad has held out a long time against very tough enemies. If youre not shy about taking on the Israelis and Russians, why wouldnt you fancy your chances against the Belgians and Spaniards?
If the jihad has its war aims, maybe we should start thinking about ours. What would victory look like? As fascism and communism were in their day, Islamism is now the ideology of choice for the worlds grievance-mongers. That means we have to destroy the ideology, or at least its potency not Islam per se, but at the very minimum the malign strain of Wahabism, which thanks to Saudi oil money has been transformed from a fetish of isolated desert derelicts into the most influential radicalising force in contemporary Islam,
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:54:46 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Now, that would make a great tag line:
Appeasement is feeding others to a crocodile hoping he'll eat you last.
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posted on
07/28/2005 8:57:52 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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