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Man Charged With Hate Crime In Mall Murder
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| 07/27/2005
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Posted on 07/27/2005 1:59:20 PM PDT by WaveMan
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posted on
07/27/2005 1:59:20 PM PDT
by
WaveMan
To: WaveMan
That's new and different.
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:00:24 PM PDT
by
Jaded
(Hell sometimes has fluorescent lighting and a trumpet.)
To: WaveMan
But if he had just wanted to rape a white woman, he wouldn't have been charged with a hate crime.
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:01:56 PM PDT
by
Paleo Conservative
(Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
To: Jaded
Weird stuff. Not sure if I support this.
You can't charge people for what they were thinking at the time of the crime. A crime is a crime.
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:02:25 PM PDT
by
ConservativeMan55
(DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
To: WaveMan
Hate crime - why can't they just call it murder? Is larceny a 'greed crime'?
To: WaveMan
"All I knew was she had blond hair and blue eyes and she had to die"
Was that the first one he'd seen? You go without killing white folks for 43 years, you figure he could have waited it out. </s>
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:03:06 PM PDT
by
tfecw
(Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
To: Paleo Conservative
No, that would have been a 'lust crime'.
To: WaveMan
He should also be charged with cowardice.
He REALLY wanted to kill a white MAN, but didn't have the balls, so he picked a 56y/o woman.
To: WaveMan
the minimum sentence would be 20 years to life In other words, if (unlike OJ) he was convicted, he'll be out in 5-7 years.
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:06:10 PM PDT
by
mtbopfuyn
(Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
To: WaveMan
It also means that Pirro is running for something statewide..
10
posted on
07/27/2005 2:06:47 PM PDT
by
ken5050
(Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
To: bikepacker67
"He should also be charged with cowardice.
He REALLY wanted to kill a white MAN, but didn't have the balls, so he picked a 56y/o woman."
I agree. Now, can we give the mutant the rope?
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:08:10 PM PDT
by
TAquinas
(Demographics has consequences)
To: WaveMan
...the minimum sentence would be 20 years to life instead of 15 years to life...I'm sure the victim will feel much better about this. Why isn't he facing the death penalty for murder? Oh, that's right in New York he's entitled to at least one murder before it becomes a serious crime.
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:12:34 PM PDT
by
FreePaul
To: WaveMan
This is not much different from a terrorist act. The muslim imams and black race pimps preach hatred for the white european race, Christian and Jewish religion, and American values. They get the young hotheads all fired up and shouldn't act suprised when violence happens.
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:14:22 PM PDT
by
sportutegrl
(People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
To: WaveMan
Lets see, if convicted of murder one, he probably will get life. Add hate one to that and he will get another life term, to be served CONCURENTLY.
With time off for good behavior and if he can get the right groups to adopt his cause, he can probably be out and on the streets in 5-6 years.
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:16:41 PM PDT
by
Bar-Face
To: ConservativeMan55
You can't charge people for what they were thinking at the time of the crime. A crime is a crime.
Indeed. Hate crimes are an idiot idea thought up by the idiot left. It's an avenue to express their inner supressed anger and rage.
This is simple, and this is how our legal system works. This stands accused of killing someone in cold blood, premeditated. Charge him with murder one. If convicted, life in prison, no parole.
But of course, actually enforcing tough sentences for heinous crimes is politically incorrect these days, especially when it's an african-american.
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:22:02 PM PDT
by
JamesP81
To: ConservativeMan55
You can't charge people for what they were thinking at the time of the crime. A crime is a crime
I agree completely. I have never liked hate crime laws. People shouldn't be punished for their thoughts, and besides, would it be a lesser crime if the perp didn't hate white people but just thought killing people was really neat?
The only good argument I've heard for prosecuting this as a hate crime is that as long as the laws exist, they should be applied across the board. This is the fair thing, and also makes more people aware of how stupid hate crime laws are.
The fact that the minimum sentence goes from 15 to 20 years is NOT a good reason. If you can't get at least 20 years for an admitted murderer with this guys priors, you shouldn't be a prosecutor (or a Senate candidate, for that matter.)
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:22:16 PM PDT
by
murdoog
(The first amendment gives me the right to question your patriotism)
To: murdoog
The fact that the minimum sentence goes from 15 to 20 years is NOT a good reason. If you can't get at least 20 years for an admitted murderer with this guys priors, you shouldn't be a prosecutor (or a Senate candidate, for that matter.)
Or, perhaps, even a cashier at the drug store.
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:24:51 PM PDT
by
JamesP81
To: JamesP81
A New Yorkers - remember one thing
YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR!!
How many of these deals will it take before you elect some politicains who will enact some laws to deal with this..
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:25:31 PM PDT
by
MudSlide
To: MudSlide
I'm not from NY, and I don't want to move there.
I have often been of the opinion that the character of elected officials people complain about are a reflection of the character of many people (not all) that voted for those candidates. Kind of a sobering thought, considering that this country elected Clinton twice.
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posted on
07/27/2005 2:30:52 PM PDT
by
JamesP81
To: WaveMan
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