To: areafiftyone
Giuliani is the strongest WOT candidate we have. Let's see if the Johnny One Notes on abortion derail him.
That is so ridiculous because you have a so-called "pro-life" President now, who has done next to nothing to move forward the cause besides the PBA signing. Bush has not cut a single penny from the hundreds of millions of tax dollars you give to Planned Parenthood every year, no federal funds going towards 3D ultrasounds to discourage abortions, then he strongly supported pro-abortion cannibal like Specter over Toomey (and lost PA by a mile anyway). How would Giuliani be any worse on abortion. He has already said he supports a partial birth abortion ban. what has bush given us beyond that? Nothing.
But abortion is not the most improtant issue anyway, It is Islamic terror. And I challenge anyone to find me a tougher law and order candidate in the GOP who is more hostile to Arabs than Rudy Giuliani. There is none.
To: montag813
Giuliani is the strongest WOT candidate we have. Let's see if the Johnny One Notes on abortion derail him. How 'bout the Johnny Three Notes on
Abortion
Gays
and Guns?
If you think conservatives are just gonna line up to vote for a liberal because he was mayor of NYC on September 11th and somehow that makes him the best commander in chief available, you got another think comin'.
27 posted on
07/26/2005 7:32:41 AM PDT by
JohnnyZ
("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country." -- Mitt Romney)
To: montag813
I agree with what you said about how Bush hasn't done anything to abortion and neither will Rudy....and I want a President that will stand up to terrorists, like Bush has....but I still think Rudy should run for Senate first....sorry, but I have to see what he is like when dealing with the likes of kerry, kennedy, clinton,poloski, dingy hairy, etc....
29 posted on
07/26/2005 7:35:14 AM PDT by
HarleyLady27
(I have a ? for the libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own dope, plant a lib")
To: montag813
How would Giuliani be any worse on abortion.
The bully pulpit and rhetoric are often more powerful than legislation when it comes to changing hearts and minds. President Bush often invokes "culture of life" language, taken directly from Pope John Paul the Great's encyclical Evangelium Vitae. Moreover, it must have made some impact. A January 2003 CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll of 1002 adults found that a plurality (42%) believed that abortion should be legal in only "a few circumstances." Only about one-fourth of respondents believed that abortion should be available "always." A December 2003 Zogby survey of 1200 adults asked the question, "Do you agree with the statement 'Abortion destroys a human life and is manslaughter?'" Fifty-two percent agreed with the statement.
Given his personal beliefs, I doubt that Rudi will use the bully pulpit to advance a culture of life the way President Bush has done so.
But abortion is not the most improtant issue anyway, It is Islamic terror
If you focus only on your own safety and that of your family's, then you are correct. Those of us who take the time to examine the position of the unborn child, however, believe that the abortion issue takes pre-eminence over all others because innocent, helpless Americans are being intentionally destroyed. All of us--military and civillian--can fight against terrorists; the heroes of Flight 93 are a gallant example of ordinary Americans fighting terror. The unborn child, however, is completely helpless. Thus, in justice, his protection is paramount.
To: montag813
Giuliani is the strongest WOT candidate we have. Let's see if the Johnny One Notes on abortion derail him. My "one-note" is gun rights, and on that litmus test, Mr. Giuliani is not good.
As to the strongest WOT candidate, maybe Mr. Giuliani is by some lights, but in my opinion, putting someone is not good on gun rights into the White House will not make this country any safer, and could well make it more dangerous.
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