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Larry Johnson's Group (VIPS) Called On CIA Employees To Leak Secrets To Hurt Bush
Associated Press ^ | March 17, 2003 | Unknown

Posted on 07/25/2005 10:03:04 PM PDT by Sam Hill

Ex-CIA Accuse Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence

Monday, March 17, 2003

WASHINGTON — Invoking

the name of a Pentagon whistle-blower, a small group of retired, anti-war CIA officers are accusing the Bush administration of manipulating evidence against Iraq in order to push war while burying evidence that could show Iraq's compliance with U.N demands for disarmament.

The 25-member group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, composed mostly of former CIA analysts along with a few operational agents, is urging employees inside the intelligence agency to break the law and leak any information they have that could show the Bush administration is engineering the release of evidence to match its penchant for war.

VIPS member Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who gave intelligence briefings to top Reagan officials before retiring in 1990, said the administration has not made the case that Iraq has ties to Al Qaeda and is providing information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standard of proof.

"It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," McGovern said. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days."

But the CIA said McGovern doesn't have any authority to speak of the quality of intelligence policy-makers are reviewing.

"He left the agency over a decade ago," spokesman Mark Mansfield said. "He's hardly in a position to comment knowledgeably on that subject."

VIPS say their appeals to CIA staff are an attempt to evoke another Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, a top-secret study on U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

Leaking classified national defense information is illegal, and CIA officers, who take a secrecy oath when they join could lose their security clearances or jobs, and may even face prosecution...

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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To: Admin Moderator
I'm pretty sure ol' LJ has given out his email publicly.
221 posted on 07/26/2005 9:17:17 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: Sam Hill

Sam, do you have any idea how he got your email address?


222 posted on 07/26/2005 9:18:34 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: Howlin
Johnson auto responses to e-mails,

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223 posted on 07/26/2005 9:19:07 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: pbrown

From past administrations to the present.


225 posted on 07/26/2005 9:21:15 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Sam Hill
Damn, I hope Fitzgerald's staff lurks here.
226 posted on 07/26/2005 9:21:16 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: Howlin
I was speechless until I read this part of the article:

Nor are the United States and its policies the primary target. Terrorist activity in 2000 was heavily concentrated in just two countries -- Colombia, which had 186 incidents, and India, with 63. The cause was these countries' own political conflicts

The fact that Israel is not listed means that this author believes Israel does not suffer from terrorism and is indeed an occupying power. That tells me all I need to know. He is a partisan hack who found statistics that backed up his preconceived notions.

227 posted on 07/26/2005 9:22:34 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Register to vote as a Dem! You get to vote in their primaries and it screws up their polling data!)
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To: Howlin
Maybe we should label these disillusioned propaganda spreaders "KoupKs"
228 posted on 07/26/2005 9:23:12 AM PDT by Syncro (Recant, rescind, retract and repudiate....Got Truth?)
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To: tobyhill

Larry is screening his e-mails...LOL


229 posted on 07/26/2005 9:23:28 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave)
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To: Howlin
Thank you. I have been sitting here reading all you posted and cannot believe what I'm reading. This sounds like intrigue in a third world country.

I'm...I'm silenced.

230 posted on 07/26/2005 9:24:12 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Sam Hill

I would bet everyone on that list is a member of VIPS.



Several of them were seen on C-SPAN recently, yakking to a group of Democrat Reps & Senators at some type of Anti-Bush hearing about the "leak." It was disgusting. Larry Johnson keep saying he was a Republican. What a bunch of bull$hit.




231 posted on 07/26/2005 9:24:15 AM PDT by Gracey
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To: mystery-ak

Can you tell me what message #109 said? It seems to have been removed.


232 posted on 07/26/2005 9:24:28 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Sam Hill

bttt


233 posted on 07/26/2005 9:25:24 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (The modern Democratic Party: Attacking our defenders and defending our attackers.)
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To: Publius6961

I think they pulled his email address. It is all over the place here at FR at the moment.


234 posted on 07/26/2005 9:25:28 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: dinasour

"Sam, do you have any idea how he got your email address?"

He wrote to Mad Mammoth, not me.


235 posted on 07/26/2005 9:25:28 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
The 25-member group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, composed mostly of former CIA analysts along with a few operational agents, is urging employees inside the intelligence agency to break the law and leak any information they have that could show the Bush administration is engineering the release of evidence to match its penchant for war.

If there is evidence of this, then they need to be in jail, along with any moronic analyst that listens to them.

236 posted on 07/26/2005 9:25:36 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: nuffsenuff

"I'm pretty sure ol' LJ has given out his email publicly."

He has. I would post a link, but it would probably get pulled.

But if you search his name (and things like "The Dead Hand") you'll find plenty of examples.


237 posted on 07/26/2005 9:27:10 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Publius6961; All

I wish I would have saved it...if anyone did, could you frmail it to Pub......Larry and his goons wanted the address of a feeper so they could pay him a vist after the freeper questioned his patriotism....


238 posted on 07/26/2005 9:27:39 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave)
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To: Sam Hill; Mad Mammoth
The plan .. you see, they're on a roll .. they've got their ducks all lining up so nicely in a row .. no one can disrupt or degrade *The Plan* .. .. this is breathtaking .. meglomania at its darkest and most sinister!

Mad .. it's truly mind boggling .. glad you've contacted the authorities .. and that you're packin'. I hope you're backing that up with a few copies to some "higher" authorities. Unless you know the locals intimately, you never know whose thumbs they're under. The tinfoil has now morphed into plutonium.

Bets on when one scintilla of this makes it to any mainstream news outlet?

239 posted on 07/26/2005 9:29:23 AM PDT by STARWISE (You get the gov't you deserve. Call your Congress Critters OFTEN - 877-762-8762)
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To: Sam Hill
Sam, do you have any idea how he got your email address?

Never mind. Note to self, read the thread before posting.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450548/posts?page=116#116
240 posted on 07/26/2005 9:30:48 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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