Posted on 07/25/2005 10:03:04 PM PDT by Sam Hill
Ex-CIA Accuse Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence
Monday, March 17, 2003
WASHINGTON — Invoking
the name of a Pentagon whistle-blower, a small group of retired, anti-war CIA officers are accusing the Bush administration of manipulating evidence against Iraq in order to push war while burying evidence that could show Iraq's compliance with U.N demands for disarmament.
The 25-member group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, composed mostly of former CIA analysts along with a few operational agents, is urging employees inside the intelligence agency to break the law and leak any information they have that could show the Bush administration is engineering the release of evidence to match its penchant for war.
VIPS member Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who gave intelligence briefings to top Reagan officials before retiring in 1990, said the administration has not made the case that Iraq has ties to Al Qaeda and is providing information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standard of proof.
"It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," McGovern said. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days."
But the CIA said McGovern doesn't have any authority to speak of the quality of intelligence policy-makers are reviewing.
"He left the agency over a decade ago," spokesman Mark Mansfield said. "He's hardly in a position to comment knowledgeably on that subject."
VIPS say their appeals to CIA staff are an attempt to evoke another Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, a top-secret study on U.S. involvement in Vietnam.
Leaking classified national defense information is illegal, and CIA officers, who take a secrecy oath when they join could lose their security clearances or jobs, and may even face prosecution...
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
try this again
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/16/AR2005061601570_pf.html
Shoot...that ain't nothin'...check this statement out:
A month earlier, and only three months before 9/11, Mr. Johnson told U.S. News and World Report that "Bin Laden has an international network of contacts, but it's more analogous to the Elvis Presley fan club than a corporation like General Motors."
The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration "neocons" so "the United States and Israel could dominate that part of the world." He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
"Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation," McGovern said. "The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic."
Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq's threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his "candid answer."
At Democratic headquarters, where an overflow crowd watched the hearing on television, activists handed out documents repeating two accusations -- that an Israeli company had warning of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that there was an "insider trading scam" on 9/11 -- that previously has been used to suggest Israel was behind the attacks.
"He is a Republican who supported and raised funds for George W. Bush’s 2000 presidential campaign."
In other places Johnson says he gave heavily to W's campaign.
As I've noted before, there is no FEC record of Johnson having given a red cent to W.
The man is a liar.
This is a total farce! These people are blasting the Administration for outing a non-covert "covert" agent. At the same time, they are urging CIA people to break the law. It's time to tell the Democrats and their fellow Democrats in the news media to go to Hell!
Theres is a common thread among all of these kooks and traitors--their hatred of Israel and Jews.
Before he seized upon the Yellowcake fantasy, Wilson's gripe against the Iraq War was that it was "Neocon Imperialism." He said Neocons had taken over foreign policy.
It's clear from the context that he was using Neocons as a codeword for Jews.
I hope the Justice Department doesn't wimp out just to make nicey with some duplicitous Democrat members of Congress.
What did Chuck Schumer know, and when did he know it?
We can add another VIPS member to the Johnson letter to Congress:
Mr. David MacMichael, former senior estimates officer, National Intelligence Council, CIA <----VIPS
"DAVID MACMICHAEL: ...The determination was to produce analyses that would support the previously decided upon policy so for me, getting back involved with Ray McGovern here and VIPS dealing with this current situation, its kind of like déjà vu all over again. It’s a familiar process.
AMY GOODMAN: VIPS being Veterans Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.
DAVID MACMICHAEL: Yes.
AMY GOODMAN: And you have put out a call now?
RAY MCGOVERN: We have indeed."
http://tinyurl.com/s9pi
Looks like we can add another name:
"PLEASE ASK MEL GOODMAN
his views on ISRAEL
RE: Recent policies on settlements and extra judicial assasinations.
Saw his fellow VIPS member, Ray McGovern, this Sunday in NYC, who I really respect.
He spoke after we viewed Pilgers film "Breaking the Silence". Spoke to him about KERRY's endorsment on Meet the Press of Bush's endorsement of these latest awful moves.
(Now Sharon says he might kill Arafat.)
McGovern is ABB, want Bush out, is for Kerry, but when he heard about the MTP statement, he was VERY disappointed, said, THATS A SHAME.
Please have Mel speak on this."
Majority Report Radio: hour three
http://www.majorityreportradio.com/weblog/archives/000080.php
Current totals on the board (of VIPS members who signed Johnson's letter to Congress damanding punishment of the Plame leakers):
Larry C. Johnson, former Analyst, CIA <----- VIPS
JOINED BY:
Mr. Brent Cavan, former Analyst, CIA
Mr. Vince Cannistraro, former Case Officer, CIA <----VIPS
Mr. Michael Grimaldi, former Analyst, CIA
Mr. Mel Goodman, former senior Analyst, CIA <----VIPS
Col. W. Patrick Lang (US Army retired), former Director, Defense Humint Services, DIA
Mr. David MacMichael, former senior estimates officer, National Intelligence Council, CIA <-----VIPS
Mr. James Marcinkowski, former Case Officer, CIA
Mr. Ray McGovern, former senior Analyst and PDB Briefer, CIA <-----VIPS
Mr. Jim Smith, former Case Officer, CIA
Mr. William C. Wagner, former Case Officer, CIA
My my.........Larry has time to read FR?
I guess the job of bringing down the government isn't a 24/7 job?
bump for later
Or it could mean he valued his life a little more than the Clinton administration would. Anyone who got out when Bubba took office was smart. This reinforces my theory that the intel from the 1990s was cooked to support Bubba's policies and any wag-the-dog scenario that he may have needed at any given time. In other words, Saddam's weapons were being systematically destroyed by the Scott Ritters of the UN. Those in the know maintained the WMD stuff because that is what they were instructed to do. When President Bush came to office, all the intel had said for a decade that Saddam had WMD and that he was not complying with the weapons' inspectors. President Bush decides to end Saddam's game, and these intel types start screaming that Saddam has complied. Why didn't they just say that they had been lying for ten years? Then just as quickly, Scott Ritter is silenced because he's a pervert. It occurred to me at one time that maybe the current admin would want to silence him. However, as time has passed, I am more and more convinced that it is the corrupt former administration and Oil for Food types that had the most incentive to silence Scott Ritter.
Regardless, we went to war in Iraq, and it was the right thing to do. May the truth continue to be uncovered.
Larry was no doubt doing undercover intelligence work here at FR when he accidentally blew his cover. Hey Larry, you suck!
This needs it's own thread...will you please use your ping powers when it goes up?.....ol Larry needs to be exposed.
I think they've been "leaking" against Republicans for a long time.
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