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Executives Who Inhale
New York Business ^ | July 25, 2005 | Matthew Flamm

Posted on 07/25/2005 5:01:43 PM PDT by Wolfie

Executives Who Inhale

New York -- Some New York executives unwind in the evening with a glass of wine. Others go out for a beer. And some take the edge off in a way they rarely discuss with their colleagues. Particularly in the summer, when children are at camp, these Gothamites are kicking back in a fashion reminiscent of their college days. "When my son's away, I keep my bong and my bag out on the dining room table," says Jim, co-owner of a furniture manufacturing company, who, like every other pot smoker interviewed in this article, asked not to be identified. "It makes me feel young again.

Despite the ongoing war on drugs and the stigma surrounding any illegal activity, a certain portion of the New York business community never turned in its rolling papers. For many of these otherwise law-abiding citizens, taking a few tokes of their favorite illicit substance is simply their preferred way to decompress. Though they might conceal their after-hours smoking from their co-workers, they insist that, used in moderation, the evil weed doesn't have to hurt job performance.

"It's an asset to the conceptualizing part of the business," Jim says. "It's a liability to the implementation part."

Among New York professionals, smokers tend to be discreet, even when children aren't in the picture. There's too much to lose from being typecast as a stoner. After all, Cheech and Chong--the pothead comedians of the 1970s--weren't exactly known for productivity.

"It's not something I would discuss with clients, even if they brought the subject up," says Sam, who has his own architecture firm. "And I only smoke with close friends."

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But statistics suggest that some of those clients are probably indulging as well. According to the 2003 National Survey on Drug Use and Health, conducted by the Department of Health and Human Services, 97 million Americans have smoked marijuana at least once, and it is the most widely used illicit drug in the United States.

In the marijuana underground, New York has a reputation not only for widespread use but for the buying habits of its upscale users. City dwellers fork over as much as $600 an ounce for top-quality product, while dealers brag about selling strains grown from winners of the Amsterdam Cannabis Cup.

The city is also famous for its efficient delivery services.

"It's the only place in the country where you can get cannabis delivered, uptown and downtown, faster than pizza or Chinese food," says Allen St. Pierre, the executive director of NORML, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, based in Washington.

New York is also known for strict enforcement of laws against marijuana. Under the Giuliani administration, marijuana-related arrests peaked in 2000 at about 74,000; about 90% of those busts were for possession.

Arrests for grass have dropped by more than half under Mayor Michael Bloomberg, to about 34,000 last year--a number that still makes the city among the national leaders in marijuana arrests per capita, according to NORML.

Though there is disagreement about government policy, even critics of the laws warn that heavy pot use can stunt ambition and accomplishment, as well as destroy personal relationships.

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"Marijuana is the most difficult drug to get people to give up, because it allows them to keep functioning," says Andrew Park, a Manhattan psychotherapist who specializes in addiction. "You can't see the damage to a person's life that you would if they were smoking crack or shooting dope."

But neither the law nor the dangers of abuse have dampened the nation's appetite for cannabis: the government's survey recorded 15 million current users in 2003, compared with 10 million in 1995.

"Alcohol dulls everything," says Abe, a litigator at a Manhattan law firm who says he would rather toke than imbibe. "Pot sharpens certain things, like creativity."

Marijuana is also the one illicit substance that appears to enjoy widespread appeal across social and economic lines.

"Lawyers, accountants, actors, cooks ... I deal with people across the board," says Jason, who has been selling marijuana full time in New York since 1996. "From people living in hellholes who can't really afford it, to people whose secretaries I have to talk to before I can talk to them."

But longtime aficionados find that, just like the sports they played in college, the drug is something they can no longer partake of as often as they did when they were young.

"The lifestyle changed when I had kids," says Bill, who manages a short-term apartment complex in midtown Manhattan and smokes only on those rare occasions when his children are not around. "Yet I still have a roach, wrapped in aluminum foil, in the back of my sock drawer."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: anslingerslegacy; bongbrigade; jackbootedthugs; lawbreakers; potheads; weaklings; wodlist
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To: Dark Skies

My objections to prohibition are that it is grossly unconstitutional, and that the government steals money from me to pay for it. I don't need to actually smoke pot to feel that way, believe it or not.


21 posted on 07/25/2005 5:29:19 PM PDT by thoughtomator (How many liberties shall we give up to maintain the pretense that we are not at war with Islam?)
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To: Wolfie

Every once in a while I get this urge to roll up a big, fat joint, smoke it, relax, and indulge in some conceptualizing. Then I heard some who are arrested for posession must endure four-hundred-four seconds of Helen Thomas sitting on their face. That ends my urge every time.


22 posted on 07/25/2005 5:30:14 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Wolfie
$600.00 / Oz ?!?!?!

WOW! And I date myself as I recall the "nickel bag"...

Now I can point out the cost savings as I set up my Martini.

23 posted on 07/25/2005 5:31:10 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Love and cooking should both be approached with wild abandon" - Author unknown)
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To: Dinsdale

Most great authors were drunks.


24 posted on 07/25/2005 5:31:55 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: thoughtomator
I certainly don't believe prohibition works...we need to cut the drug loose and let the people decide. Anything less is like Islam. "Hide the temptation...kill it."

I am infinite stronger for having overcome my weaknesses.

25 posted on 07/25/2005 5:32:17 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: tallhappy

Apart from other things.


26 posted on 07/25/2005 5:32:33 PM PDT by neither-nor
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To: kellynch
Alcohol at least doesn't stink.

As a fraternity alum, I beg to differ. ;-)

27 posted on 07/25/2005 5:36:36 PM PDT by RichInOC (...Phi Kappa Sigma, Beta Rho '87...my liver is evil. I must kill it.)
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To: Wolfie
Some New York executives unwind [...] in a fashion reminiscent of their college days.

Can't be true. All pot smokers are burnouts who live in their parents' basements. I know because the WODdies told me so.

28 posted on 07/25/2005 5:38:01 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Dark Skies

Inspirational and Wise words.

Bravo


29 posted on 07/25/2005 5:39:26 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Dark Skies

Good advice.
Besides, too much pot gives guys manboobs.


30 posted on 07/25/2005 5:52:22 PM PDT by Sabatier
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To: Dark Skies

"God loves you and wants you sober"

Yeah but Benjamin Franklin said:

"Beer is proof that God exists and that he wants us to be happy"


31 posted on 07/25/2005 5:53:01 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Dinsdale
"I can name a lot of great authors who were drunks.
Two stoners come to mind. Keasey and Hunter. (flames will be ignored, unless you want to argue that Hunter was a drunk not a stoner)
No puritans come to mind."

William Shakespeare
Herman Melville
Charles Dickens
The authors of the books of the Bible

These are just a few off the top of my head. I take it that we're discussing fictional writers only. If we were to include nonfiction writers, then the list would have to grow tremendously. I mean, can you imagine reading a nonfiction book written by a pothead (I am of course talking about potheads, not someone who tried dope once) about physics? Would you really trust the advice given in a book of chemistry that was written while someone was high? I think people often confuse hallucination with creativity. There is a difference between the two.
32 posted on 07/25/2005 5:58:11 PM PDT by dbehsman (NRA Life member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: Servant of the 9

are you kidding me? I have long since passed middle age my friend. Stop striving for youth. You can still grow old gracefully and still maintain a youthful attitude. Don't you remember the saying: "The trick is to grow UP without growing OLD." Be yourself. Take advantage of what is out there for middle agers or do what you want but do it because it is fun for you and you enjoy doing it for the sheer pleasure and NOT because something makes you feel young. Feeling young only lasts for so long. Being young only lasts for so long. There's a lot to be said for age IF you can accept it and grow with it. Good luck.


33 posted on 07/25/2005 6:09:12 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: thoughtomator

Could be. Still seems like an escape mechanism just like it was in the 60's.


34 posted on 07/25/2005 6:10:33 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: cubreporter

Could be, but everyone is entitled to seek happiness in any way that pleases them as long as they don't violate the equal rights of every other citizen.


35 posted on 07/25/2005 6:23:21 PM PDT by thoughtomator (How many liberties shall we give up to maintain the pretense that we are not at war with Islam?)
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To: dbehsman

Shakespeare smoked cocaine.

He also produced this sonnet: (#76)

Why is my verse so barren of new pride,
So far from variation or quick change?
Why with the time do I not glance aside
To new-found methods and to compounds strange?
Why write I still all one, ever the same,
And keep invention in a noted weed,
That every word doth almost tell my name,
Showing their birth, and where they did proceed?
O, know, sweet love, I always write of you,
And you and love are still my argument;
So all my best is dressing old words new,
Spending again what is already spent:
For as the sun is daily new and old,
So is my love still telling what is told.

source here: http://veryimportantpotheads.com/main2.htm


36 posted on 07/25/2005 6:23:33 PM PDT by youngjim (Time wounds all heels)
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To: spanalot
"Beer is proof that God exists and that he wants us to be happy"

Heh heh...I always enjoyed that. But I guess it's a personal decision.

37 posted on 07/25/2005 6:31:55 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: thoughtomator

Oh yes, as long as they don't violate anyone else.


38 posted on 07/25/2005 6:34:22 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: Sabatier
Besides, too much pot gives guys manboobs.

Like Teddy Kennedy or Fat Bastard.


39 posted on 07/25/2005 6:37:39 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: dbehsman
I mean, can you imagine reading a nonfiction book written by a pothead (I am of course talking about potheads, not someone who tried dope once) about physics?

this from the same source quoted above:

RICHARD FEYNMAN Physicist

Richard P. Feynman was a Nobel laureate in physics, a best-selling author and member of the presidential commission that investigated the Challenger disaster. He was a popular lecturer who was widely known for his insatiable curiosity, gentle wit, brilliant mind and playful temperament. His 1985 book, "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman," was on the New York Times best-seller list for 14 weeks.

Feynman shared the Nobel Prize in 1965 for reconstructing almost the whole of quantum mechanics and electrodynamics, deriving a way to analyze atomic interactions through simple diagrams, a method that is still used widely. He was also a member of the team that developed the first atomic bomb at the Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory. His 1988 obituary in the Los Angeles Times stated that Feynman admitted to smoking pot during his lifetime.

I have no doubt that this will not convince the anal-retentives on this thread of anything, but I am sure that the riders of the purple gage are laughing their asses off at you santimonious saps.

40 posted on 07/25/2005 6:38:50 PM PDT by youngjim (Time wounds all heels)
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