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Nonsense from the Idiot Department(Tom Tancredo)
Miami Herald via Buffalo News ^

Posted on 07/25/2005 3:22:39 PM PDT by Alex Marko

It is probably not a good idea in terms of job security to publicly call your boss a horse's ass. So have some sympathy for Will Adams, spokesman for Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo. He was asked by reporters to explain the asinine thing the congressman said last week. Adams told them Tancredo is just a "free thinker." By which standard Michael Jackson is just a tad eccentric. Or haven't you heard? Tancredo thinks maybe the United States should bomb Mecca. You know Mecca. City in Saudi Arabia. Birthplace of the prophet Muhammad. Holiest shrine of Islam, a religion practiced by one of every six people on Earth. That's the place a U.S. congressman thinks maybe we should lob some ordnance at.

Tancredo made this contribution to the national dialogue last week during a talk show on WFLA, a TV station in Orlando, Fla. Host Pat Campbell had asked how we should respond if U.S. cities are ever struck by terrorists using nuclear devices. "Well," said Tancredo, "what if you said something like, if this happens in the United States, and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, you know, you could take out their holy sites."

"You're talking about bombing Mecca," said Campbell.

"Yeah," said Tancredo.

Predictably, Tancredo's suggestion has been a little controversial. That is, if you can call statements of condemnation stretching from Moscow to the State Department to Ankara, Turkey, "a little controversial."

Tancredo has refused to apologize, but he did issue a written "clarification," which said in part, "I do not advocate this. Much more thought would need to be given to the potential ramifications of such a horrific response."

Actually, you don't need to give any thought to the ramifications of such an action, because they should be self-evident to anyone smarter than the average hamster. We would become an international pariah. Muslims would hate us with renewed fervor, and Osama bin Laden would thank us for writing his recruitment material.

In other words, the same situation we have now, except worse. Much, much, much worse.

And I wonder: Am I the only who feels that lately - lately being defined as since Sept. 11, 2001 - the nation seems overrun by yahoos?

Granted, the presence of yahoos in daily life is not a new torment. They have always been among us, the simplemindedness of their thinking exceeded only by the volume at which they express it. Think Cliff Clavin, the cogs of his brain lubricated by beer, holding forth from his stool at the end of the bar. Of course, the only thing you had to do to avoid Cliff was to stay out of Cheers.

But the 9/11 attacks have unleashed yahooism on an unprecedented scale. Cliff is no longer confined to his bar stool. Under the name Mona Charen, he once wrote a newspaper column advocating the expulsion of Muslims from America. Under the name Rush Limbaugh, he has a radio talk show on which he compared the torture of prisoners at Abu Ghraib to a fraternity prank. Under the name Ann Coulter, he calls for the racial profiling of travelers from the Middle East. And under the name Tom Tancredo, he is apparently a member of Congress.

What he doesn't get - what yahoos usually don't get - is that things that seem to make sense while you're hoisting a few rarely hold up in the sober light of day.

Tancredo has cast his refusal to apologize as a blow against political correctness. Which is silly. One can be plain-spoken without being reckless, blunt without being stupid, straight-forward without sounding like a fool.

Assuming, that is, you have something worthwhile to say. Tancredo evidently does not. Somebody tell him his beer is getting warm.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: bushiswrong; bushwillsacrificeus; idiot; idiotdepartment; islam; mecca; nukemecca; quitactingdumb; tancredo; tancredoforprez2008; tancredoisright; votetancredo2008; wakeupyouliberals
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To: kingu

youre foolish....none of those countries will support the US if it is nuked and responds by nuking Mecca.

those countries you mention are all democracies and their citizens are increasingly anti-american...the US would get 0 support..

as Europe become more and more muslim watch for native europeans to become more and more anti-american


81 posted on 07/25/2005 4:30:24 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: atlanta67

Simple: PANDEMIC. It just began.


82 posted on 07/25/2005 4:31:07 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: atlanta67

We have to remember the words of that great Irish American: Patty Henry!!


83 posted on 07/25/2005 4:32:17 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: Alex Marko
A certain quote comes to mind......

"The bombing starts in 5 minutes!"

He did not hurt the Republican Party, too much.

LVM

84 posted on 07/25/2005 4:33:38 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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To: atlanta67
well which do you think is more likely in response to a nuking of american cities?

I've already stated it; they would nuke Mecca first, figure out where the material for the bomb came from, and new targets selected. If, say, it is North Korea demonstrating their new nuclear weapons, the United States would announce that North Korea has 1 hour after (however many other bombs went off x number of North Korean cities) to unconditionally surrender to us or face the complete destruction of their nation.

As for public explanation - it doesn't matter. If it was North Korea, it was the North Koreans working with the radical Islamics. If it was Pakistan, again, they were just working with radical Islamics.

I'm not sure why it is so hard to understand that this question has been brought up many times at White House press conferences and Pentagon pressers - if the United States is attacked with weapons of mass destruction the United States will retaliate in kind. It is inflexible, not dependent upon who does it or how, it is stated absolute policy and I don't care who is in the White House, it will be how things are.
85 posted on 07/25/2005 4:34:39 PM PDT by kingu
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To: atlanta67

Those nations are socialist, and have marginal military usefulness.

Currently, the balance of forces tilts to the US no matter how you look at any scenario.


86 posted on 07/25/2005 4:35:47 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: kingu

nuking MEccas isnt going to happen stop dreaming.

also Tancredo as i have written elsewhere has done tremendous damage to his cause of illegal immigration.

It will be easier now to villify those who want immigration controls.

Tancredo should go.


87 posted on 07/25/2005 4:37:44 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: atlanta67
youre foolish....none of those countries will support the US if it is nuked and responds by nuking Mecca.

I'm foolish? No, I am not. I don't think you understand what you're talking about. This isn't a car bomb, this isn't guys or gals with belts of TNT, this is an action of war. Incontrovertible action of war. There won't be hand hand wiggling, the left will never be able to pull the masses out for protests - the entire action and reaction will take literally hours.
88 posted on 07/25/2005 4:37:46 PM PDT by kingu
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To: atlanta67
Tancredo should go.

I suggest you move to Colorado, become a resident in his district and vote against him if you're of that mind. Otherwise I suppose you'll have to learn to live with it, just like I learned to live with Nancy Pelosi's wacko statements. The only difference is that Tom's comments match announced policy.
89 posted on 07/25/2005 4:39:36 PM PDT by kingu
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To: datura
Pop Quiz kiddies...

Three nukes go of in American cities, followed by total silence from both dar-al-Islam and dar-al-Harb.
Fifty- seven muslim capitals disappear under massive nuclear explosions, followed by total silence from both dar-al-Islam and dar-al-Harb.

What's the difference?
Extra points given to any answer that is truly coherent.

Why is it assumed that mysterious nuclear explosions can only happen within the U.S.?

90 posted on 07/25/2005 4:41:16 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Warren_Piece
On second thought, make that just Tancredo - this author is just an idiot.

Well put.

Any sane person knows that you just can't send the nukes flying willy nilly.

You give 'em 60 minutes advance notice.....THEN....nuke 'em.

Sorry, it's a flaw I've had for a long time.

LVM

91 posted on 07/25/2005 4:42:54 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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To: kingu

""The only difference is that Tom's comments match announced policy.""


so who has announced we would nuke Mecca besides crazy tancredo?


92 posted on 07/25/2005 4:43:06 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: atlanta67
so you think western civ has the will to go to war with 1.3 billion muslims? and not only that but to win?

Of course.

If I weren't convinced totally, I would have already bought my prayer rug.

After all, Michael Medved and Hugh Hewitt have both been relentlessly pounding into me the idea that resistance is futile; Not because we are wrong, but because there are "too many" of them.

93 posted on 07/25/2005 4:47:33 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: atlanta67
so who has announced we would nuke Mecca besides crazy tancredo?

My mother always tried to get it through to me that insanity is defined by trying to do something the same way over and over again and expecting a different result. I've answered the question - I'm not insane enough to assume you'll respond any differently.
94 posted on 07/25/2005 4:48:19 PM PDT by kingu
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To: Publius6961

57 Muslim cities. Why so few?


95 posted on 07/25/2005 4:49:03 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: atlanta67

Have you actually read Tancredo's comments? Did you read them in the original context in which they were propounded?



96 posted on 07/25/2005 4:49:29 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: kingu

so you wont answer who has stated that our policy is to nuke mecca.

this nuking mecca is a dellusional fantasy, brought on by people who are frightened and have no clue how to fight a WOT. very very simple minds are work


97 posted on 07/25/2005 4:50:35 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: atlanta67
There will be no bombing of Mecca...IF the west goes to war against all 1.3 billion muslims, it is a war the west and the USA will surely lose

Will the Persians be glad or upset that Islam will have been smacked-down since it was forced upon them by Arabs? I read some very hostile anti-Muslim/Arab posts on an Iranian site, and I got the impression they'd be pleased if there were no Islam anywhere. I wonder if the billion-plus number of Muslims would suddenly decline substantially.

98 posted on 07/25/2005 4:52:04 PM PDT by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: datura
57 Muslim cities. Why so few?

By sheer coincidence, that's the number of muslim-by-law countries in the world today.

Your mileage may vary.

99 posted on 07/25/2005 4:53:55 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: thoughtomator
All his intemperate and thoughtless words do, besides handing our sworn enemies a propaganda gift, is to lower Congr. Tancredo's stature in the eyes of normal, rational people while elevating the stature of the yahoos.
100 posted on 07/25/2005 4:54:12 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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