CA: The bad-news budget

OC Register ^ | 7/25/05 | Esmael Adibi

[HKMk23]

Maybe, given the salient factors in this proposed split, instead of East and West California, the two new States should be named Greater and Lesser California. ;-)

[Czar]

Sure glad we didn't vote for that "unelectable" McClintock...

[Regulator]

Good research. I never thought of catenating the initiative power with the legislative division clause in the Constitution.

This could work.

[backtothestreets]

I'd actually favor the larger state retaining the state name, all mottoes, the flag, and any other emblem now associated with the state. The smaller state would need to adopt a new name, and absorb the costs of decaling all vehicles, printing new letterhead, designing a flag, and whatever may be necessitated by the split.

I've received some light hearted input on naming the states nonetheless. Ultimately, the choice would be the citizens, not mine, and I prefer it that way. A couple weeks ago as I pondered a name for the small state, two names came to mind. The first was a parody of Communist Viet Nam and mainland China.

I thought about calling the small state the "Peoples Republic of California". It wasn't long after another more stunning thought came to mind, and it made me reflect and shudder. I thought about Sodom and Gomorrah. How sad to think this was the way I viewed these two regions that would form the small state, but it seems to be an image the majority of citizens in those areas embrace. How sad.

I expect a number of people will move from the smaller state if the initiative is successful. I pray God will help us all.

[backtothestreets]

Thank you, but the real credit for the initiative perspective overstepping the state legislature goes to CRA leadership.

My only contributions to this proposal were tinkering with the unusual split, finding where the split would best occur and presenting it for consideration to the CRA and other groups and individuals.

Except for a single negative response a few weeks ago, all other responses have been encouraging and supportive. Some have posed very strong questions that should be posed before a real effort is solidified.

If the voters did approve an initiative splitting the state, and through some fluke interpretation of the law, the state legislature were given final say on the issue, and disapproved it, it might well create such resentment among voters that a host of state legislators would be removed from office in a simultaneous statewide recall efforts and replaced with advocates for splitting the state.

There are some major hurdles yet to be overcome before the initiative can become a reality.

[marsh2]

I am pretty sure that far northern, or "superior" California would not want to have its water resources drained to the populous southland by vote of an overwhelming majority. We certainly don't share cultuiral values with them. Besides, we have a longstanding arrangement with disaffected conservative rural southern Oregon to form the State of Jefferson. That arrangement has existed since before the bombing of Pearl Harbor. We even have our own flag - a Gold Pan with 2 - Xs (double cross) to represent being double crossed by the State legislature.

[Regulator]

Sounds like a win-win to me. The idea of splitting the state in a non-contiguous way is rather innovative.

The fact that such a thing could be proposed and have serious support would be earth shaking on its own, not just to the state but to what's left or our "country". The leftists have always operated on the assumption that the rest of us will simply go along with their mad ride into hell because, well, we had no place to go and no way to escape them.

Something like this would show the world that we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it: we want the world that we want, not the world they are trying to jam down our throats.

I'm all for it.

[ca-dreamer74]

Where is the next leader? Where is the next Reagan? Where is the man that will stare the riotous leftists in the eye and walk right through their mobs?

I actually have begun to feel sorry for Arnold. I think we all knew what he was in for. I think he thought it would be tough at first. Sadly for him, the interests aligned against him have no idealogical core or value other than win at all costs. They elevate their own selfish desires above what is best for our state.

So we Californians get to look forward to more taxes, more spending and less than ever in return. But at least we can rest at night knowing we're exporting tax dollars to illegals! We're educating the best Mexico has to offer!

Maybe it IS time to move to Nevada. Maybe we can make a last stand in the desert...

[lainie]

Californians, are we going to do this? Hint: You will have to get out of bed to do it.

But, and do what? There are a certain percentage of people here who still refuse to recognize Schwarzenegger for what he is. They're mad at those who were right about him, but not much else. The time to get off our asses, when real change could have been affected, was two years ago. Now that has passed, and I think it's too early for the next opportunity.