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Posted on 07/25/2005 7:17:04 AM PDT by TexKat
Natalee Holloway and friends in Aruba 5/30/05
Then again, I may be completely wrong. And that's ok, too! :o)
What do you read over there?
sw
I didn't watch the program, but last night on Fox, on one of the shows that has viewer comments at the end, some fool wrote in complaining about how this new show was taking advantage of soldiers in Iraq to promote the war or some such nonsense.
Have people never seen any old WWII movies? There were very few 40s movies that did not touch on the theme of soldiers at war or returning home or various other stories about the war. I suppose all those old movies were promoting WWII.
Well now, I thought that was the case, but I didn't have a source to prove it. If you have a link or something, txrangerette, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Sometimes I'm just not sure if what is rolling around in my head is a fact, or an opinion I've formed. Hard to keep track sometimes! :o)
Thanks!
Re: the post from SM about 2' of water.
Jossy said it was nearly dry, only 2 inches of water, when N disappeared. Not that parts of it couldn't have been muddy, just that there was little water in it on that date...just reporting what Jossy said.
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I have a few browser windows open over there.
1) The scaredmonkeys.com homepage.
2) Lively Case Discussion #31 Thursday AM 7/28/05 (though they will probably close this thread in a little while and start a new one):
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1808&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=600&sid=85188cc138a34fbe477baa7d2a57cb16
3) Front Page People #13 (close to the end, too. Look for #14 soon):
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1717&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=900
4) Rumors of Breaking News #113 07/27/05 Evening (this one has not moved much):
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1778
By the way, this was on the homepage:
Larry King Transcript
July 28th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->
Here are some of the outtakes from the Larry King show last night.
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: At this hour, Larry the draining of a pond not far from this hotel is going on. This pond is located not far from the hotel where Natalee had been staying, but it’s also adjacent to a racquet club. You’ll remember talking about this very recently. This racquet club is where a witness has come forward and talked about seeing a car parked nearby it on a road in the dead of night, the night that Natalee disappeared. And he saw, he says, the Kalpoe brothers’ car, named as suspects, but no one is charged in this case.
Also in the car he said he recognized Joran Van Der Sloot. The three boys were known to be with Natalee the night she disappeared. And so authorities, law enforcement sources tell us that the reason they are draining this pond and are working, as I said, even at this hour, is because of its proximity to the racquet club where this car was parked.
They’re looking for possible evidence in connection with this case, possibly even Natalee herself, or some other evidence that the boys were at that pond. They think they might be able to finish draining it by tomorrow.
KING: Why, Susan, did this witness come forward so late?
CANDIOTTI: It’s unclear, but he has told some people that he had some concerns about what might happen if he came forward because of what’s happened to other witnesses in this case. For example, we know that the security guards were fired after they were arrested and then cleared. The mother of the Kalpoe brothers was fired, and this kind of thing. And so — however, those who know him say he has no reason to lie, and the law enforcement authorities at this time tell us that they believe him.
And this summary from the Holloway Twitty Aruban Attorney illustrates some of the differences in the legal systems.
PETER MOHAMED, ATTY. FOR HOLLOWAY TWITTY FAMILY: Well, of course the way things are going now, we represent the family and all that we want to do is that the family gets the best representation and gets what they came for. They want answers to the questions, as they said, and as everyone knows, things haven’t been, let me say, been done right in the beginning. And certainly these last few days, a lot of new developments are taking place.
And as we are in contact with the prosecution, we know — and with the police, we know that the investigative authorities are quite optimistic. I don’t want to say they are to be too optimistic, but they too want to solve the case primarily for Natalee and for the family of Natalee, and then, of course, you know, to finally get this thing over with.
Because the last few weeks, it has been so hectic in Aruba with this case and I think primarily, you know, the family wants to really know where they’re up to. That’s why, of course, you know, the $1 million reward came up from, and of course if finally something comes out of this draining of the pond, the prosecution knows maybe, let me say, whether that is going to be a case and how strong the case is going to be.
TJ Ward also added this nugget:
T.J. WARD, P.I. FOR HOLLOWAY TWITTY FAMILY: Well, one of the things that I figure that the witness that I found saw the car that was used in the disappearance and on the 28th, 29th and 30th. And it just seemed a little strange to me that a week later the same car shows up three or four times in the same area around that pond.
Those boys were there looking for something. And there’s a good possibility that the body could be buried, because there was very, very little water in there around the 29th and 30th of May, and shortly before the storm hit and the hurricane, that’s what caused all the water to be there.
And it’s very soft and very easy to dig and put somebody underground there. But like Dr. Henry Lee says, it would be very, very good if the body is there, that it would be preserved by the ground itself if it is underground.
I really have no idea.
Where was the duct tape found? That's what I don't remember. Was it on the east side of the island? If so, fairly far. The island is 6 miles or so across. The pond is on the west side, near the Marriott.
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Beth said on Greta's show that N never went back to the room that last night. She seems to be very certain of that. Not sure why though.
Just dumb luck. Happened to be looking in the right place/right time.
I think the bag may have contained Joran's stuff. Possibly his father was taking his belongings from the jail.
OTOH, it could've been his own stuff since he too was jailed for a time.
It's hard to know because no context was provided for that video clip.
We may be on the verge of finding out!
Thank you for keeping the light burning, TexKat. We have family visiting for a week and I'm pretty far behind on the news in general and frustrated at the slowness of the investigation with regard to Natalee.
I think the point was that it wouldn't have been hard to dig in it. The ground was moist (not like a salt pan would get when it is dried out in the hot sun), but it was also not flooded as it is now. I may be missing something, though.
I think that's correct. Just not feet of water in it.
No, but we can provide links. I'm not talking about when we're speculating. But when we post info from another site, we can add the link to the site. Just so it is easy for people to go back to where we got it from.
Thanks.
Well, ya done good! :o)
Glad to be of service! :o)
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