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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 9
Various News Outlets | 7/25/05

Posted on 07/25/2005 7:17:04 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway and friends in Aruba 5/30/05


TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; joran; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; twitty
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To: Rippersnapper

I'm pretty sure there are 2 papers with similar names....El-Diario and Diario

The former is Jossy, and I think Tito Lacle is the investigative reporter for the other.....


181 posted on 07/25/2005 12:56:29 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: spectre; maggief

I think it is 1 million in Aruba currency thus being $100,000 in USD. (I'm not sure though)

Maggie I guess I fell for F&F's joke... hook, line and sinker!!!


182 posted on 07/25/2005 1:00:04 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I think I am beyond cynical.

I don't believe the new witness and I don't believe there is a witness who knows where the body is.

So many false leads.


183 posted on 07/25/2005 1:00:13 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Yaelle
Oh no, the hair was NOT Natalee's?

I would like to have more confidence in the Aruba authorities, but I just don't.

I believe I read that Natalee's hairbrush had been turned over to the police, and was returned to BHT about the time the duct tape and hairs were found.

I wonder how secure the chain of evidence is on Aruba? I would hope that Natalee's hairs from her home in AL (such as from carpet, other hairbrush, clothing, bedding, etc. could be obtained by the FBI, so that we could be sure that the comparison hairs to be used in DNA testing by FBI were indeed Natalee's.

And, where is info about the fabric found that looks just like Natalee's top?

184 posted on 07/25/2005 1:02:34 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: maggief

No offense taken here. I'd be embarrassed if I was the cause of a thread distraction. Forget about it.

I do have strong feelings about this case. But they are only feelings, not fact-based.


185 posted on 07/25/2005 1:04:16 PM PDT by Scarlet7
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To: All

we had a report over the weekend in the biloxi sun herald that a north carolina shop owner and previous resident of aruba had been called by her friend PVDS the day of the arrests and was told that natalee fell and hit her head and died, but i have read or heard nothing else on this story...anyone out there hear or know anything?
it could be that the original story was the game plan hatched at VDS home (where natalee's final calls for help by cellphone were made--one to a classmate or cousin and one to her mom--with the howling monkey in the background noise)and this story was a "plant" by the elder VDS to get the alibi rolling that the death was accidental...anyway, other than the original article, nothing has been broadcast on this element of the mystery


186 posted on 07/25/2005 1:04:44 PM PDT by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, ther you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: cajungirl

Tower of Bab-EL, isn't it?

8 pm to 11 pm is getting closer, toooooooooooo, LOL


187 posted on 07/25/2005 1:05:24 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: maggief; CitizenM
Oh, dear maggie...I'm flippin out with this case..sorry I misunderstood.

They seem to be going ballistic down in Aruba as well today. I think I need to step back, and take a deep breath.

Someone I respect very much, called it to my attention off the forum, that Jossy may not be playing straight either. I had never considered that..silly me. Got to admit, that when it was properly explained, it got my attention. I remain open to that possibility.

No one is what they want us to see down there.

sw

188 posted on 07/25/2005 1:06:23 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: TexKat

TexKat, could you tell me where the list of abbreviations that relate to the Holloway Thread can be found. I just scanned through the earlier threads and couldn't find them. Thanks.
AUsome


189 posted on 07/25/2005 1:06:50 PM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: cajungirl
"I don't believe the new witness and I don't believe there is a witness who knows where the body is.
So many false leads.
"

Hear, hear..I'll drink to that!

sw

190 posted on 07/25/2005 1:10:52 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre
Hey, sw, I have been in and out all day and have missed the news. Has anything definitive been heard from the FBI about the tape and hair?
191 posted on 07/25/2005 1:13:10 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: AUsome Joy

I'm not TexKat but this will get you started...

Shortcuts... (updated version)

A-DK = David Kock (Satish's Attorney
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)

Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)

CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
CNN = Cable News Network

DH = David Holloway (Natalee's Father)
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect

GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)

HNN = Headline News Network

Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect

LE = Law Enforcement

MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
MSM = Main Stream Media

Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)

SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay - possible suspect)
SG or SG's = Security Guards
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 18 year old suspect

VDS = van der Sloot


192 posted on 07/25/2005 1:13:40 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: spectre; Scarlet7

No problem, I may not have been clear in my response. Onward ... :-D

Re: JM

I don't trust him at all. I can envision him paying off a "witness" or two, and pinning the mess on DK. JMO


193 posted on 07/25/2005 1:14:49 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: Dark Skies
"Rumor" being reported is that it's a big negative.

We're starting happy hour early today..:)

sw

194 posted on 07/25/2005 1:14:55 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: maggief
See there? That possibility was explained to me. They're all rotten! LOL.
195 posted on 07/25/2005 1:16:52 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: maggief
I don't trust him at all. I can envision him paying off a "witness" or two, and pinning the mess on DK. JMO

That is a good point but why protect the OGMB? (Over Grown Monkey Boy = JVDS)
196 posted on 07/25/2005 1:19:02 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: countryconservative
diario is Spanish for daily, i.e. the daily news
197 posted on 07/25/2005 1:21:45 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: sarasota

I heard a FOX guy stste earlier today that the rumor is that the hair on the tape is not Natalee's. Baden said, well, if it's not Natalee's, whose is it? And why was she duct-taped?


198 posted on 07/25/2005 1:25:42 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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Million Dollar Reward For Safe Return Of Natalee Holloway


http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/million_dollar_.html


Interesting, to say the least. From an email.

Beth and Jug Twitty have announced that the reward for the Safe Return of Natalee has just been upped to a million dollars, no questions asked. Although anonymity is illegal under Dutch Law, the Twitty's lawyer Vinda de Souza confirmed that all tips will remain anonymous.


The 100,000 reward leading to the whereabouts of Natalee dead or alive remains the same.


199 posted on 07/25/2005 1:26:34 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Palladin

Baden said last week that a cursory look would have shown it either was or was not similiar to hers; I wonder why they flew it to D.C. and Holland?


200 posted on 07/25/2005 1:26:39 PM PDT by Howlin
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