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Posted on 07/25/2005 7:17:04 AM PDT by TexKat
Natalee Holloway and friends in Aruba 5/30/05
SM:
How many witnesses are there???????????
According to Diario's article, "their witness" never drove by, but "walked" passed the K car...
A body in this location would stink to high heaven, and the dogs would have picked it up by now.
Bimini, Bahamas, Jamaica, Virgin Islands and now Aruba. I stopped travelling in the eastern part of the Caribbean in 1990. A buddy of mine who has been in the Foreign Service for 22 years and posted to places like LaHore, Pakistan and Bogata in the late 70's told me that the most dangerous place of all was a year he did in Kingston, Jamaica. Carried a gun and a bodyguard with him at all times. They DONT like white American males. I was in a Bar/Restaurant called the Three Queens in Nassau,Bahamas in 1988. I was there with a local who I had been fishing with and he took me to the place. I was the only white person there. Had I not been with him , I wouldnt have made it back to the hotel.
When you get away from your Resort/Hotel, you are on your own. I only travel to the Yucatan now and stay on the Island of Cozumel. Fishing is great and the diving is better than Cayman. Aruba and all of its' citizens can kis my big white ***!
Fisherman's Huts
apparently a driving witness/gardener and now the others who were walking. (see your post #129)
(see your post #129)
I meant 120, sorry.
I guess that pretty much answers my question.
Thanks.
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/
July 25th, 2005 by Absolut -->
Aruban radio says the blond hair is not Natalees.
Today on Canal 90 (a radio station) in Aruba reported that the hair found on the duct tape was NOT Natalees. Thanks to Teos wife for the info.
While on Fox News Dayside Jossy says
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The gardener was driving slowly cause Deepaks car was blocking the road..He got a great look in the car and it was only those 3 in the car no Natalee. (I still think she could have been in the back seat hidden as Satish jumped forward to block the right part of the car) Also stated that Joran said that Deepak was in charge. Was in charge of the burial?? He said yes..
He spent weeks trying to convince the gardener to come forward as he was very scared. Scared of what?He said to be implicated in a murder investigation..Josie had to convince him it was safe and had a team of his people pick him up to the polis. Where he signed a sworn statement.
Finally, MSNBC is reporting a second witness who was with Aruban Polis at roughly 9am this morning having more details about a possible location of where Natalee had been.
From the Scared Monkeys forum some reactions to the MSNBC story.
If someone said they knew where the body was @ 9:00am today - well its 1:40 now and there is no activity anywhere on Aruba. Wouldnt they be broadcasting live and be out looking in the area for the body
Just my 2 Cents
>>> Update from Todays Diario: (partial translation)
. . . This person [referring to the witness] left a house to go to his own house in the late hours of the night [in question] and as he was walking to his house, he passed on a dirt road where a car was parked. As he was walking past the car he saw three men sitting in the car. One which was white put his hand to his face to cover his face while the other who has sitting next to him turned his head so that he could not be seen and the person who was sitting on the seat behind in the car quickly lowered himself to that he could not be seen at all.
After a few days when he the news of Natalee was in the news media this witness noticed that the three persons he saw in the car were Van der Sloot and the two Kalpoe siblings.
Because of fear the witness did not come forward to give police authorities this key information, but after three weeks the DIARIO team came to find the witness and convinced this person that in the interest of all people that have something on the line in this case, the witness decided to cooperate with DIARIO and with the police also and so the special DIARIO team took him to the police station at Bubali where the detectives interrogated this person.
Informations which relate to this testimony came partially from KIA where some person who was jailed together with the Kalpoe brothers heard this and that and so the information came to the special team of DIARIO and finally the witness was obtained and now the police has a better view on certain parts of the investigation.
It should also be mentioned that this is not the only key information but that there a lot of important information that in the coming days can determine the path of the investigation on the disappearance of Natalee.
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(More self-congratulatory parts)
From: DIARIO BROUGHT KEY WITNESS TO COPS IN HOLLOWAY CASE page 2 25 jul 2005
Last time I was in Jamaica, my daughter and I were going out to dinner just a few blocks from our hotel. We were going to hoof it until the manager saw us and went nuts. He not only made us take his driver but the driver waited while we ate. I told him he could go back and we would get a cab but he wouldn't budge. I went shopping the same trip and the driver rolled his car down the street right by me as I walked. I felt very unsafe in Jamaica.
And in St Lucia the hubby and I drove around and got ambushed by sword wielding guys up in the desserted area near the coast. We drove right thru them.
Parts of the Caribbean are unsafe now, drugs is the problem. We were in the Caymens, next door to the Gov House and my daughter took a walk at twilight on the beach. She was escorted back by armed people patrolling.
Only place I feel safe is Bonaire and I think that is changing. It is sad, I love those islands.
Oh my goodness that is the picture of the fisherman huts I have been trying to find again!!! The true fisherman huts are adobe style buildings and not twig/grass huts like we have seen in other pictures that were marked Fisherman Huts.
Yes, it looks like an old electric cable reel.
I see that you rarely post here, consequently, you are treated as an outsider. Many have been treated this way. I also would have liked that info--where to find that picture. So be it. You may know something important. That's a no no here.
I only travel to the western caribbean now, and for the last 12 years it has been Cozumel. Drug Lords have moved from Panama to Costa Rica and are beginning to corrupt that Govt. Belize is fine if you dont spend too much time in Belize City. Youth Gangs there are rampant and prey on tourists. Drugs are ruining this world.
Oh, geez, li-li. Get off your high horse. I don't post here often, but I have never been treated like an outsider.
Maybe you should go sit in the AC for a bit...cool off some?
sw
Money is getting these people to talk - I sure hope they know something and are not playing games. It might be that some of these people are worried that someone is going to a reward that they think they should get, so they are now coming out of the woodwork?. I wonder just how many people really know the truth? - Everyone will really get pissed off if there are numerous people who have known the truth and have sat on it all this time because they were waiting for a big fat award. - SOB's everyone of them if this happens to be the case.
bttt
I'm pretty much a contented lurker here. Outsider, insider doesn't matter to me. Don't think what YOU and others convey don't have importance here.
What is the problem? Seems the question was answered and a pic supplied.
New Witness In Natalee Holloway Case Claims To Know Where Her Body Is Located
http://www.riehlworldview.com/
With the FBI in town and the lead prosecutor out of town, the heat seems to be rising under the Natalee Holloway investigation in Aruba.
One witness claims to be able to place all three boys at a popular racquetball club located approximately 200 yards from the Marriott Hotel where the boys first claimed to have dropped off Natalee Holloway.
If true, that report could clear up one longstanding concern with the boys story. The beaches around the hotels are known to be covered with people well into the night, it might have been preferable for the boys to have taken Natalee Holloway to a more discreet location, like a racquetball club, had they been seeking some privacy.
Unconfirmed reports suggest Joran Van der Sloot, an athlete and accomplished young tennis player, may have frequented the racquetball club a few times a week. It's unclear if he had 24/7 access, or if the club somehow acted as a possible after hours party location for some, even a small group without the knowledge of club management.
As to the where abouts of Natalee Holloway, it is at least suspected that some design may have went into the handling of those details. It has been speculated that Paul(us) Van der Sloot, Joran's Father, may have played a role. If true, it is likely that his experience and expertise in the law may have led him to layer the puzzle surrounding the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
By making arrangements to dispose of her body, or disposing of it himself, he may have insulated his young son from interrogators bent on getting to the truth by witholding details, even from his son. Also, given the emerging details of where the boys may have actually been that night, it is possible that they did bury her initially in the sand, as an alleged early confession suggested, with the body having been re-located some time later. Developing. See below.
NBC News has learned that there is a new witness in the case. This witness claims to know where Holloway's body was placed. The witness is reportedly cooperating with Aruban police. No other details about the witness or what that person witnessed is available.
This post is also available at Blogger News Network.
Hey JRabbit!
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