Posted on 07/25/2005 5:07:52 AM PDT by MadIvan
Well, yes, there was another logical outcome.
We should shoot all illegals and criminals who run from the police. Funny thing, growing up in Okla I ALWAYS assumed cops could already do that. Kept me outta trouble. I assumed they could shoot at me or my car if I ran. I told my 21 year old son that and since he grew up in the 80s and 90s he thinks I am crazy. He thinks cops are helpless and that they can't chase you or shoot at you. Maybe they should all be allowed to shoot to kill anyone who runs from them or fights arrest. Fine by me.
Just what I was thinking! The building was under surveillance ..... what was he doing there, besides the fact that he was there illegally in the first place....
My words exactly. I see the grief of course...but the first thing you think about is suing...not right. I can think of eight steps and lots of time till you got to that state of mind...even in a police shooting.
Maybe it's past time for deportations.
I respectfully beg to differ. Im sure US cops dont normally shoot at people running away from them, but I would wager a small fortune that this would change if the US was attacked by suicide bombers (Im ignoring the 9/11 attacks for this purpose as those werent your average suicide bomber attack).
Note they did not shoot him just for running away, but because he was heading for a tube train. Quite why they shot him there but allowed him to get on a bus is something to ponder but thats sort of beside the point.
The real problem was that the guy was not expecting armed police to challenge him. People in London will think differently now.
Captain Hyperbole strikes again.
Indeed. He committed suicide.
However, the victim's cousin, Alex Pereira, who is based in London, said: "[The police] have to pay for [Friday's killing] in many ways, because if they do not, they are going to kill many people, they are going to kill thousands of people.
Sounds like it is time to deport "London-based" Sr. Pereira.
"Five shots to the head for an expired visa?"
No -- five shots to the head for refusing to halt/freeze when asked to do so.
The BBC just says the block of flats he came from was under surveillance. There are a lot of people in one block of flats.
Not when you suspect he is trying to detonate a suicide bomb, they don't.
It was a good, clean kill and there is nothing they should have done differently.
All the deceased needed to do was cooperate. Don't blame the police because he was a suicidal moron.
I've read that he lived in an apartment building (block of flats), not a house. Apparently, other residents of the building had terrorist connections.
note to self, Make sure Visa is not expired. also, Do not run from the police.
Did you read my whole post? I said pretty much the same thing.
So what is five in the head?
"Two in the head, you know they're dead"
Five in the head, they know they're dead!
Exactly. If you don't want to be shot at, beat up, etc. by the police then don't run from them.
If you call being in that situation (illegal) after all that had happened there, you'd think you could be more careful...knowing they're looking for a certain type...
I focus on the situation...I mean what does a terrorist look like? We have Muslims from Indonesia, Albania, Phillipines, Germany...
You look at the behavior. Everyone would be singing another tune had they done nothing and the video showed the explosion and people dying or dead (if he was carrying). London has been hit back to back...even with their amazing security measures. I'm sure the cops have been under extreme pressure to start with.
Sure it was horrible, I can't imagine being a member of his family and what they're going through...
I have a feeling this is still not the end of the story.
You mean how to set your trigger to be more sensitive?
And he had come from an apartment that was under surveillance due to possible terrorist activity there. The scenario could not have been much more suspicious. What surprised me was that the police physically captured him, then shot him (at least that's how I understood it). But today I read the explanation; that a wounded terrorist still can detonate a bomb.
I agree with you both. There may be some unanswered questions about him.
:) That would be helpful, but I don't think that's what the ACLU (Lib- USSR) would have in mind.
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