Know what? This still sends "shoke waves" around my mind...
Posted on 07/24/2005 4:30:19 PM PDT by CO Gal
When U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., suggested that bombing Mecca might be an appropriate response to the terrorist threat, he sent shock waves around the world.
And he thrilled many of his supporters.
I heard from dozens of nuke-happy Tancredo fans, though not all of them had the courage to sign their names.
From Don MacEwan: "Islam was and is the religion of terror. ... Putting forth a warning to Islam that mutually assured destruction means their holy city of Medina is nuked if they do not curb their terrorist urges seems to be a prudent step."
From Cynthia J. Starks: "The problem is with the religion of Islam. ... These people are EVIL!!"
From John M. Conway: "I think Mr. Tancredo is right. ... These people are barbarians and it's bed-wetting cowards such as yourself who somehow think they can be reasoned with."
From Margaret Wilmott: "Tancredo hit a nerve. Good for him. I'd prefer a first strike. Why wait?"
The State Department, meanwhile, was in full-on damage control. "These remarks are offensive and unacceptable and do not reflect U.S. policy," it said in a statement. "We unequivocally reject the idea of targeting Mecca or any other civilian or religious site by anyone. The U.S. respects and honors all the great religions of the world, including Islam."
News organizations from Australia to Russia responded with their own criticisms of Tancredo's remarks.
"The lack of understanding for Islam in the United States is disturbing," said Spiegel Online of Germany. "One gets the impression that, were the Constitution not clear about the separation between church and state, the country might rapidly turn into a Christian theocracy. And Muslims would be the first to go. ... Is it any wonder that many Muslims are skeptical of the United States?"
As the controversy roiled, Muslims in Colorado became increasingly frustrated and frightened.
Rafaat Ludin, president of the Colorado Muslim Society, said he has received hate-filled, threatening calls and e-mails at the Muslim Society and on his private phone and private e-mail account in the wake of Tancredo's remarks.
On Tuesday, a car raced through the grounds of the Colorado Muslim Society, endangering people who were there to study and pray. "The schoolchildren were very frightened," he said.
Muslims here and around the world have been vocal and forthright in their condemnation of terrorists for years, Ludin said, but the message seldom is heard. "We had a huge demonstration in Washington, D.C., against terrorism a year and a half ago and even that didn't get any media coverage," he said.
That's why the Muslim Society has hung five banners outside the mosque along Parker Road to try to communicate directly with people who don't understand Islam. They say: "Islam = peacemaking," "Muslims condemn terrorism," "Islam values life," and other messages.
"The position of the Koran is very clear about this," Ludin explained. "The taking of life of innocent people is not only condemned, it is a major sin. For a Muslim person who does this, there is no chance of going to heaven."
All religions have extremists who ration alize violent behavior through some distorted interpretation of their faith, he said. "Eric Rudolph is one of those radicals who went out and started bombing places because he thought he had a religious duty to do that. You don't go out and bomb the Vatican to stop that."
He said the misunderstanding of Islam among Americans - especially people in positions of power - is appalling.
"That someone in Congress on the International Relations Committee is able to make such statements ... and have no shame whatsoever, no understanding whatsoever of the emotions of the more than 7 million Muslims in the U.S., that's what shocks us, that's what angers us and scares us," he said.
"It's such a high level of ignorance of our beliefs," he said. "It's such a message of hate
1. Rudolph wasn't Catholic.
2. Since his capture, Rudolph has said that he prefers Nietzche to the Bible.
3. Nietzche said "God is dead".
4. Nice try, a**hole.
I agree! Too many Americans believe that Islam is a religion of peace.
THEY WANT TO KILL ALL OF US NON-BELIEVERS!!!
Hmm, did anyone bring a videocam? Should be easy enough to prove, if so.
Incorrect. He suggested that nuking Mecca might be an an appropriate response to a terrorist nuclear attack on American soil.
Quite a distinction, but one evidently lost on the author.
Know what? This still sends "shoke waves" around my mind...
That's a real hateful anti-American comment. There are lots of good American Muslims who love this country and everything we stand for. I know a couple here on FR. You have no right to tell other Americans to leave the country.
But infidels are never innocent, and the taking of their lives is not only not condemned, it is mandatory.
Stop blaming the westerners for the hate. Start blaming the PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE KILLING.
Yes, be skeptical... very skeptical. And stay your *ss in your own country. The days of my trying to "understand" islam are OVER.
So far as I know, the Vatican has not been out killing anyone and neither have the Jews. Jews have been able to live peacebly in the countries into which they have gone ,and they make good neighbors. This is not true of Muslims, for they take terror with them and hatred where ever they go. Islam needs to be banned, and it has existed by force and intimidation, and this needs to end NOW.
then why do we find time after time after time, that they secretly agree, sympathize, fund, and apologize for these people.
YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS! STOP TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH!
Nearly all of them are saying that they are against innocent killing on all sides (code words, we are against the US, in other words moral equivalency)
"Not everyone seems quite as willing, as they once were, to be satisfied by the pabulum of Karen Armstrong or the coffee-table books of John Esposito. Infidels have discovered websites where four or even five Quran’ic translations are laid out for comparative reading, a horizontal pentapla that may be accessed at www.usc.edu. At the same site, or at many others, Infidels can now read for themselves hundreds of the Hadith (the sayings and acts of Muhammad), as collected and catalogued according to its relative authenticity by such trusted Hadith-compilers, or muhaddithin, as Bukhari and Muslim (a proper name). In addition to reading Qur’an and Hadith, Infidels can read the sira, or life of Muhammad. As al-insan al-kamil, the Model of Perfect Man, the figure of Muhammad is at the center of Islam, and everything he is reported to have done or said, or even remained silent about, in 7th century Arabia, remains as vivid, compelling, and emulous today. "
Islam for Infidels:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004628.php
"Is it any wonder Muslims are so sceptical of the US?"
Hey jerk, I'm thinking that it is mulims who have been involved in 98% of terrorist attacks.
Cry me a F*^$W(ING river, ragheads!
I'm not sure if he's standing between Medina and that anger, but maybe.
Do they feel lucky, or what?
Best Islam cleans its house.
So do you cheer on the terrorists in Iraq who are killing muslims on a daily basis?
"He said the misunderstanding of Islam among Americans - especially people in positions of power - is appalling."
But not nearly as appalling as the misunderstanding of Islam among Muslims--if it is indeed a misunderstanding.
Unlike Muslim countries, any of them.
Islam has a very serious problem that is rooted in its scriptures and in its history. Any religion that preaches that is acceptable to murder people who have left the faith, is a religion that must either evolve or become extinct.
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