Posted on 07/24/2005 10:42:32 AM PDT by Graybeard58
Aww, how nice.... I wonder if Howie bowed his head in prayer afterwards... you know, cuz they're the party of "faith traditions" and all, too... (/sarcasm)
Still, he added, ''I think that we must be absolutely firm in being the party of individual freedom and personal freedom, which means that in the end the government doesn't get to decide, we do.''
Whew! For a minute he had me going, but okay, all is right with the world.... a Democrat is trying to have it both ways and believes you're too f'ing stupid to figure it out.
These people make me sick.
Q: What do you call a typical pro-life Democrat?
A: A new Republican.
Re #38 -- I was in a college debate on this subject and brought up these very points. I'm not exaggerating when I tell you many of my (anonymous) peer critiques contained threats of physical violence for even suggesting such a hideous "lie".
"I'll take them a little more seriously when they run pro-life Dems against pro-abort Republicans"
The DSCC was actually pushing for that recently, trying to get Jim Langevin to run against Lincoln Chafee. After the abortionists started raising a fuss, Langevin wimped out.
I do! Just this past week, at a staff picnic, one of my colleagues came up to me (after consuming a considerable amount of the beverage for which Milwaukee is famous) and tried to start a spat over gun control again, this time using as his main thrust the argument that the lower crime rates of recent years reflect not the liberalizing of concealed carry laws, but rather a positive side-effect of readily availaable government-funded abortions!
I told him he'd just made a great argument for genocide, then left and joined a different group of people. Having lived in Wisconsin most of my life, I make it a practice never to argue with belligerent drunks.
-''I think that we must be absolutely firm in being the party of individual freedom and personal freedom, which means that in the end the government doesn't get to decide, we do..."
...and we choose death! Death for anybody who wants it for themselves or their offspring!
"While many think that its hypocritical that the Democrats are keeping certain aspects of the pro-choice ideology, I think it is important to recognize that it is a start."
Certain aspects? What aspect of the pro-choice ideology are they NOT keeping? They're saying they still believe in abortion rights but "respect" (i.e. want the votes of) those who don't.
Of course not! All we hear from the RATs is "reproductive choice." RATs cannot even used the word abortion. It's far too descriptive of what they actually support and agitate for. No matter what they call it, it's still the murder of innocent babies and that they cannot escape. Dean is a maniac and only constant care from psychiatrists may eventually help him, but I doubt it.
Well Howie maybe when the demonicRAT party stops being the wh0re of groups like NARAL that actually DO promote abortion, that could change. Until then...
Pro-lifers are as welcome in the Dems as pro-choicers are in the R's.
Dean said. ''The Republicans have painted us as a pro-abortion party. I don't know anybody in America who is pro-abortion.''
I Guess Dean hasn't spoke with Dickhead Durbin in a while.
'Show me one woman who actually chose to have an abortion, with the catch being that there was no pressure put on her from the "father", her parents, "friends", or even financial situations.'
It happens all the time. That's the sad thing.
By the way, I think you're on a slippery slope when you lump "financial situations" into this group of items. Doesthe government should ensure that no one (or no woman) is in financially dire straits?
When someone sees abortion as a solution -- say a senator who just knocked up a young intern -- they are pro abortion.
''I think that we must be absolutely firm in being the party of individual freedom and personal freedom, which means that in the end the government doesn't get to decide, we do.''
Do you understand the weight of this argument? The only way to interperate this is that the abortion question should appear on a referendum, NOT decided by a legislator wearing a black robe. If the people REALLY get to decide Roe v. Wade it will go down in flames in most states.
Of course, he's just using political slight of hand.
Clearly Dean isn't on the fax list.
"Strangely enough, that was Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger's original argument, too."
I thought Sanger was pro-life...
No, but she was pro-Nazi.
And if you look at the results -- Nazism, 20 million dead, vs. Planned Parenthood, 40 million aborted -- clearly, Margaret was the smarter and more dangerous of the two.
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