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Judge Roberts is pro affirmative action

Posted on 07/23/2005 10:03:42 PM PDT by johnmecainrino

Roberts took the side of pro racial preferences and quotas in the rice vs cayatano case giving racial preferences to native hawaii islanders. He argued this before the supreme court. And look who he argued against and with will tell you all you need to know about the "fake conservative" Roberts.

Judge Bork, Ted Olson, took the side arguing before the supreme court against the racial preferences in quotas arguing against Roberts.

Roberts took the side of U.S solicitor general waxman in the clinton administration arguing for the racial preferences.

This Roberts guy is another Souter on social issues.

Roberts also has as a caused tried to help minority students get into law schools. He is very pro affirmative action.

Between this and the abortion is settled we have a Souter on social issues.

Roberts as a conservative is a bad joke.


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To: johnmecainrino
He'll probably be like O'Connor on states rights issues and on business issues and a slight notch better than her on the hot button conservative social issues.

Not sure where you get that from. I think he'll be a vast improvement over O'Connor. But even if he is what you think that is good enough for me. I don't care much for "hot button conservative social issues." It bothers me more that the Government can take my home then that Roe v Wade is the law of the land. Although I disagree with them both.

81 posted on 07/24/2005 12:13:45 AM PDT by SoCar (I fully support John Roberts.)
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To: SoCar

I might be wrong I just read an article from the times hearald record that makes Roberts out to be more conservative than I thought. He took a stand against racial quotas in 1978 supreme court case.

Now only if he will reverse bad precedent we might have a justice in the mold of a Renquist which would be great for social conservatives.

He'll never write broad movement opinions like Scalia but he can still be a good conservative. And as cheif justice he wouldn't have the power to decide who would write the majority opinion in a conservative ruling. As an associate justice he might be fine.


82 posted on 07/24/2005 12:14:51 AM PDT by johnmecainrino
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To: johnmecainrino
Roberts took the side of pro racial preferences and quotas in the rice vs cayatano case giving racial preferences to native hawaii islanders. He argued this before the supreme court. And look who he argued against and with will tell you all you need to know about the "fake conservative" Roberts.

Lawyers are not activists. They are hired by clients who pay them to argue a case. He doesnt make his million dollars plus a year as partner in his law firm by chasing after movement legal cases and doing them pro bono. His arguing this case for the State of Hawaii tells you no more about his views than his writing a brief against Roe v. Wade for the first Bush administration. In each case, he was a lawyer advocating for his client. Jeez!!

83 posted on 07/24/2005 12:15:23 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: SoCar

On Kelo I think he would have been in the dissenting opinion.

O'Connor was very good on property rights and most state rights issues.

I see Roberts being solid in this area. But remember that will leave us with Kennedy being the swing vote who is horrible in this area. We have to wait for one of the liberal justices to retire to get the court righted in the right direction in this area.


84 posted on 07/24/2005 12:17:11 AM PDT by johnmecainrino
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To: johnmecainrino

Source??


85 posted on 07/24/2005 12:18:21 AM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: Dan Evans
Ann Coulter had reservations about this guy. Maybe she is right:

Doesnt surprise me at all. Coulter and similar wack jabs like Michael Savage dont represent conservatism to me. They are just idiots who like the sound of their voices.

86 posted on 07/24/2005 12:21:03 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: johnmecainrino
I couldn't see Ted Olsen taking a case like that.

That (being a partisan) and age are why Olsen wasnt considerd for a position on the Court.

87 posted on 07/24/2005 12:28:07 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: k2blader

record online.com

you can go to google and type in roberts not party line vote

but you need a to pay a subscription to get onto it now.

I was able to see the site when it was first posted on google but now it isn't available.


88 posted on 07/24/2005 12:29:30 AM PDT by johnmecainrino
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To: johnmecainrino

Ah, okay, thank you..


89 posted on 07/24/2005 12:29:59 AM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: F16Fighter
Then welcome to the pandering moral relativist world of Kennedy, Souter and O'Connor.

Oh so we want activist Judges to legislate from the bench if they support the right causes?

90 posted on 07/24/2005 12:31:02 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: denydenydeny

Is there some law that af lawyer has to accept 'employment'
to argue something with which he disagrees?


91 posted on 07/24/2005 12:42:49 AM PDT by RWCon
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To: Cincinna
Implying the poster of this comment is a "wacko" is both cruel and absurd.

Roberts is a relatively fresh face with not much of a paper trail. My initial impressions of him are positive. If Chuckie SChumer doesn't like him, and Mark Levin does, that says a lot.

On the other hand, Ann Coulter has solid conservatively credentials and questions him as a choice.

Bush had any number of solid conservatives he could have selected and this forum provided links to a number of them.

Perhaps Bush feels this guy as a relatively unkown commodity, has a better chance of getting past the Dems, and believes he is a strict constructionist. Maybe he is and maybe he is not. I hope the conservatives on the Senate Judiciary Committee ask him as many telling questions as the radical Dems will.

In the meantime, I don't know anything about Roberts taking a case in defense of the indefensible, i.e. affirmative action. It would help if a link to the details of this case were provided.

If he did so while working for a government entity, and handling that case was a part of his job, it shouldn't be held against him.

On the other hand, if he took this case on a pro bono basis or in a private capacity, that's a red flag.

Certainly everyone is entitled to legal defense, but that's not what is being discussed here.

An independent attorney is clearly free to accept or reject a client who comes knocking on his door as a customer, but I'm sure nobody on this forum would want an individual on the SCOTUS who defended NAMBLA or the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. And I find Affirmative Action as reprehensible and un-American as Abortion, Paedophilia, gun-grabbing, state-sponsored atheism, or open borders.

I support candidates and incumbents because they have conservative credentials, not because of their political tag, or I'd be willing to support John McCain or Rudy Giuliani, which I am not.

In the meantime, I think we should refrain from inferring somebody is a "wacko" merely because we disagree with them on an issue involving George Bush.
92 posted on 07/24/2005 12:45:29 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Dave S

Referring to Ann Coulter as a "wack job" calls into question your own judgement, pal.


93 posted on 07/24/2005 12:52:54 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Cincinna
" BTW Judge Roberts was then a lawyer,representing a client. Instead of seeing pink elephants, some wackos see RINOs everywhere."

ROFLMAO

94 posted on 07/24/2005 1:22:17 AM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Artemis Webb
It is at the state level that the abortion issue will now be fought

Bingo.

95 posted on 07/24/2005 4:13:58 AM PDT by Alia
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To: johnmecainrino

I see. So Roberts arguing against abortion and for school prayer means NOTHING, but Roberts arguing for affirmative actin should be taken as his views? Interesting double standard, and shows where you are coming from.


96 posted on 07/24/2005 4:29:17 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: johnmecainrino

I once represented a person accused of murder. I guess that makes me pro-homicide.


97 posted on 07/24/2005 4:33:00 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: umgud
I don't blindly support of agree with Bush, but I think he knows the stakes on the SCOTUS appointments.

Yes, but never forget, Bush is a liberal, which is to say, a servant of our parasitical elites, just as was his daddy. Souter was not a mistake.

Just because Bush is leading us in war doesn't make him conservative. Not all liberals are pacifists; Franklin Roosevelt and LBJ also led us during wars.

When will conservatives learn?

98 posted on 07/24/2005 4:38:38 AM PDT by wotan
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To: Soul Seeker

Dear Soul Seeker,

"I see. So Roberts arguing against abortion and for school prayer means NOTHING, but Roberts arguing for affirmative actin should be taken as his views?"

One can turn that around:

I see. So Roberts arguing for affirmative action means NOTHING, but Roberts arguing against abortion and for school prayer should be taken as his views?

It is legitimate to point out that Mr. Roberts' real views are hidden from plain sight at this time. We are being asked to buy a pig in a poke. I pray it works out well. I fear it may not.

To express that concern isn't wacko.

Ms. Coulter makes an excellent point that in the past, when conservatives have nominated ciphers, we have always been taken to the cleaners. It isn't unreasonable to point that out, and to point out that we are once more placed in such a difficult position.


sitetest


99 posted on 07/24/2005 5:08:55 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: MNJohnnie

What scares me is you make all these accusation but have yet to even offer even a shred of proof to back it up. I suspect you are pretending to be something you are not. Source for our accusations please.

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Doubt if you will get them from him. He is obviously a du troll. No facts just accusations, typical at du but not at FR.


100 posted on 07/24/2005 5:34:50 AM PDT by KeyWest
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