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Ex-CIA Officers Rip Bush Over Rove Leak
AP via Yahoo ^ | 07/22/2005 | DONNA DE LA CRUZ

Posted on 07/22/2005 1:59:59 PM PDT by zencat

Former U.S. intelligence officers criticized President Bush on Friday for not disciplining Karl Rove in connection with the leak of the name of a CIA officer, saying Bush's lack of action has jeopardized national security.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; cialeak; larryjohnson; rove
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To: txrangerette

Well .. I'm sorry Rich gave you that impression .. I get his daily column and I can guarantee you Rich is not concerned that Rove or Libby are in any kind of trouble.

And .. there has been plenty of talk that Russert may be the "subject".


181 posted on 07/23/2005 6:53:12 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CyberAnt

I did not assume that about Rich, myself. I just said he COULD have been interpreted that way by his demeanor. And he was surrounded by people in the media who seem certain that only Rove/Libby have something to worry about. So his reserve contrasted with their certainty and their rabidness, I guess...


182 posted on 07/23/2005 8:40:07 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Shaka

Wasn't Larry part of the CIA's LSD experiments?


183 posted on 07/23/2005 10:49:29 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: CyberAnt

I LOVED your understatement, below. I thought Rich was a loving conservative guy. (Just kidding!):

"Well .. I'm sorry Rich gave you that impression .. I get his daily column and I can guarantee you Rich is not concerned that Rove or Libby are in any kind of trouble.

"And .. there has been plenty of talk that Russert may be the "subject"."





184 posted on 07/23/2005 10:52:55 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: ravingnutter; Peach

See post 40 this thread if you haven't already.

More reading for me later..


185 posted on 07/24/2005 10:44:15 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am an Americanist. Deal with it.)
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To: prairiebreeze

I've seen that. Excellent research by that freeper. Just outstanding.


186 posted on 07/24/2005 10:55:57 AM PDT by Peach
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To: My2Cents

BINGO!

Ding, ding we have a winner! This is the most plausible and believable explanantion I have seen, yet.


187 posted on 07/24/2005 11:34:48 AM PDT by Shaka
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To: Mo1

True that. There are some idiots at the CIA who have not done a real days work in a long while. They have been using the agency to fund what amounts to classified vacations.

AND NOW ITS COMING TO AN END. And the few in the Agency who have been taking the vacations.....don't like it.


188 posted on 07/24/2005 5:53:31 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (McCain, you'll never be president.)
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To: Sam Hill

Larry Johnson is a fraud.

He was talking is crap on a talk radio station interview in the Dallas area once.

A guy called in who used to be a federal prosecutor and called Johnson a Fraud.

He pointed out if what Johnson was spouting off about was true (Johnson was claiming all sorts of secret missions), then Johnson would have just committed a federal crime by releasing classified information. He said he would be calling folks he worked with.

At that point....Johnson started backpedaling and saying that they weren't actually classified missions....but had that type of status.


189 posted on 07/24/2005 5:57:07 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (McCain, you'll never be president.)
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To: zencat; Mo1; Howlin; kcvl; Txsleuth

So was this another one of those mock hearings that the dems have. Since they don't have the pull to actually line up a real one.

Interesting, like the last time, that the AP would not mention that if it is. Which it most likely is.

NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT THE LADY WAS NOT UNDER COVERT OR PROTECTED STATUS.

She went out giving public briefings and using her own name!

Larry Johnson is a fraud.


190 posted on 07/24/2005 5:59:33 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (McCain, you'll never be president.)
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To: Sam Hill

Sam,
I can't get that link to open up.

Can you post another one? The one that shows he did not donate money to Bush...


191 posted on 07/24/2005 6:01:07 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (McCain, you'll never be president.)
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To: Howlin; Buckhead; Mo1; Txsleuth; kcvl; Quilla; Son_of_hillaryisevil; onyx

Would this not be a violation of ethics? These "hearings".

They are using tax dollars to fly in their left wing croanies to hold bogus hearings!

Heck.....sounds criminal to me!

And again, not to mention the fact that the lady has been shown to NOT have been under any covert or protected status.


192 posted on 07/24/2005 6:05:30 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (McCain, you'll never be president.)
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To: ArmyBratproud

The dems hold hearings like this all of the time...the reason no one knows about them is because they are usually about something other than the MEDIA...

therefore, the MSM will make a BIG deal about this. Dorgan has had about 2-3 of these kinds of dems only hearings about Halliburton---trying to get Cheney tied up in something bad...hasn't worked so far...but you are right.

It is OUR tax dollars NOT at work.

I have a question though about this SP---did he get testimony from Joe Wilson BEFORE the report from the Senate Intelligent Committee's report, and the British report about this came out?

Because the Senate Intel. Report pointed out several times that Joe Wilson lied, and is a liar...so if they know he is a liar, maybe he lied in grand jury testimony...


193 posted on 07/24/2005 6:48:02 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: ArmyBratproud

Sorry about that. Just see for yourself:

Advanced Individual Search
http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/advindsea.shtml


194 posted on 07/24/2005 7:26:31 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: ArmyBratproud
Would this not be a violation of ethics? These "hearings".

To be honest .. I really don't know

195 posted on 07/24/2005 9:07:21 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: ravingnutter
I know you didn't write this, but you did bring it to the group for discussion. That introduction means I'm about to throw a speedbump in front of one of your articles:

Behind the scenes, the single most important reason for the Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson farce is that CIA Director Porter Goss has finally started to clean house at Langley. Goss's long-overdue shake-up is clearly backed by the White House, the top levels of the Pentagon and State Department, and the new National Director of Intelligence, John Negroponte.

OK, the farce began due to a Robert Novak article in 2003. Porter Goss didn't get to the CIA until late last year. It doesn't seem logical for the CIA to create the VP/JW kerfuffle in anticipation of Porter Goss putting on the janitor's uniform and cleaning out the CIA. I suppose you could explain much of this away be establishing that the White House was intent on cleaning out the CIA in 2003 or earlier.

196 posted on 07/24/2005 9:12:38 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: ravingnutter
I have often said that these so called civil servants have ulterior motives when it comes to self preservation.

I believe there is a mix of anti-Americanism made up of certain Democratic party members, the intelligence community and other subversive groups.

Groups such as any one who is a member of the ACLU, PETA,ELF, NAMBLA and other participants out on the radical fringe of American ideology.
197 posted on 07/26/2005 10:25:50 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Sam Hill

Thanks, Sam.


198 posted on 07/27/2005 5:47:30 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (McCain, you'll never be president.)
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To: CyberAnt

If Greg Thielmann (State Department) is to be believed in this interview, there was no interest in this in January or February of 2003. So what happened between March and May that got everyone interested in the story?

http://www.echochamberproject.com/thielmann
Greg Thielmann interview
"In January, I submitted an Op-Ed to the Washington Post. And the theme of that Op-Ed was to try to raise warning flags about the way senior administration officials were using the term "Weapons of Mass Destruction."
..."The Washington Post didn’t have time for this piece. I wrote another Op-Ed in February immediately after Secretary Powell’s speech, pointing out the absence of any mention in his 85-minute elaboration of the uranium from Africa story. That Op Ed was also rejected. I wrote members of Congress."

(near the bottom of the page).


199 posted on 07/27/2005 6:04:06 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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