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Senator Bill Frist Sponsors "Support Our Scouts Act 2005" To Save Boy Scouts From ACLU
Senator Bill Frist | 07/22/05 | Senator Bill Frist

Posted on 07/22/2005 8:41:37 AM PDT by Chris Dickson

Just hours ago, I introduced an amendment to the Defense Authorization Bill ... "Support Our Scouts Act of 2005."

You may recall that I wrote to you about this subject a few months ago. I wanted to give you an update ...


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Just hours ago, I introduced an amendment to the Defense Authorization Bill ... "Support Our Scouts Act of 2005."

You may recall that I wrote to you about this subject a few months ago. I wanted to give you an update ...

Earlier this month, an appeals court judge declared Pentagon support for the Boy Scouts of America major gathering -- the National Scout Jamboree -- unconstitutional.

Why?

Well, in the words of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) -- who petitioned the court: the Scouts require members to "privately exercise their religious faith as directed by their families and religious advisors."

That, they argued, was a violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment (separation of church and state).

Sadly, the court agreed.

You're probably wondering what takes place at the National Scout Jamboree ... just what it is that had the ACLU so aghast.

An American tradition, the National Scout Jamboree is a gathering of over 40,000 people -- scouts, moms and dads -- at Ft. A.P. Hill in Virginia (a military base). They come together every four years and learn important skills, such as canoeing, leathercraft, land navigation, first aid, and survival skills.

They also come together to celebrate their bedrock values. They talk about patriotism; they talk about public service; they talk about conservation; they talk about civic virtue; and they talk about faith.

No specific denomination, mind you, but rather the mere acknowledgment of a higher power.

That was enough to set the ACLU attack machine in motion; they put this venerable organization in their crosshairs.

Once again, the ACLU sued the Boy Scouts of America.

This is an organization -- the Boy Scouts of America -- whose motto reads (in part): "On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country ..."

They gather -- as I once did, as my three sons did, as more than 40 members of the United States Senate and 150 members of the House of Representatives did -- to talk about principles.

Principles like honesty, integrity, and character.

My friends, the Boy Scouts of America produce good kids ... the true leaders of tomorrow.

They've been doing it proudly since 1910.

And it's a sad day when we need to enact legislation to enable them to keep doing it ... particularly at a time when we face such unprecedented challenges at home and abroad.

As they say, America's greatness is determined by our goodness.

Well, let me tell you, these kids are as good as it gets. They make us proud.

And we need to stand up for them.

My amendment does the following:

It makes clear that the Congress regards the Boy Scouts of America to be a "youth organization," not a religious organization. It asserts the view of Congress that government support of the National Scout Jamboree (by the Defense Department) helps with the training of our armed forces. It removes ANY DOUBT that federal agencies may welcome Scouts to hold meetings and go camping on federal property.

I believe this amendment will receive broad, bipartisan support in both the Senate and the House, and that it will pass this year.

And I hope you will join me in standing up for the Boy Scouts of America by calling your Senators and Representatives and asking them to support the "Support Our Scouts Act of 2005."

As for me, I hope to proudly be among those attending their annual Jamboree next week.

Bill Frist, M.D. Senate Majority Leader

1 posted on 07/22/2005 8:41:38 AM PDT by Chris Dickson
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To: Chris Dickson

Nice. Too bad about the judges.


2 posted on 07/22/2005 8:44:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: Chris Dickson; The Bat Lady

how sad that we have to pass a law to allow good behaviour.

I HATE THE ACLU. DEFUND THEM AND LETS FREEP THEM. I see freepers going to their local ACLU and getting in their faces about the destruction of the goodness of America.

Did ya'll hear about the Scout troop who set up their popcorn stand in front of the ACLU? A national talk show guy happened to be in town and sent his guy with the microphone there and they made tons of sales! HA HA


3 posted on 07/22/2005 8:46:19 AM PDT by The Bat Lady (Proud member of the pajamaheddin [PMPJ])
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To: Chris Dickson
This will drive the libs crazy. I am sure they will pull the fictious 'separation' clause out to fight this.

didn't mean to pm that...

4 posted on 07/22/2005 8:46:22 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Chris Dickson

Good for Frist.


5 posted on 07/22/2005 8:47:01 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (More people have died in Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile than at Gitmo)
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To: Chris Dickson
They come together every four years and learn important skills, such as canoeing, leathercraft, land navigation, first aid, and survival skills.

I'm sorry, but when was the last time that leathercraft was considered an "important skill"? LOL

6 posted on 07/22/2005 8:47:43 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Chris Dickson

The ACLU is evil and it rages against the good in America. I have asked my senator to remove the ACLU's federal subsidy....it too is unconstitutional. Congratulations to Sen. Frist for doing this one right.


7 posted on 07/22/2005 8:50:08 AM PDT by NetValue (No enemy has inflicted as much damage on America as liberals.)
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To: Chris Dickson

OK, good -- but, does anyone know: would it override the court ruling? What real-world effect would it have?

Dan


8 posted on 07/22/2005 8:51:22 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
when was the last time that leathercraft was considered an "important skill"?

Oh, here in Sodom by the Bay, Leather craftsmen are very much in demand.

9 posted on 07/22/2005 8:55:40 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("Rommel, you magnificent son of bitch.....I READ YOUR BOOK!! - Gen. Patton)
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To: Chris Dickson
Good Idea, but bad methodology.

Instead of adding this as a rider to an existing bill that is sure to pass, he should have made it a stand alone bill. Make the leftists stand up for what they believe in.

10 posted on 07/22/2005 8:57:52 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("Rommel, you magnificent son of bitch.....I READ YOUR BOOK!! - Gen. Patton)
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To: Michael.SF.
Oh, here in Sodom by the Bay, Leather craftsmen are very much in demand.

Yes, but do you really want Boy Scouts growing up to supply the S & M freaks? lol

11 posted on 07/22/2005 8:58:00 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Chris Dickson
Political correctness was designed to silence descent against any liberal special interest group, and the liberal activist judges made it into law.

This support for the Boy Scouts is a noble, pro-American move. The boys learn the values that have supported this nation since it's beginning. That's why we need to correct the liberal errors on the Supreme Court.

12 posted on 07/22/2005 9:00:44 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Rarely a day goes by, that I don't employ something I learned as a Scout.

And yes, leathercraft has come in handy a time or two


13 posted on 07/22/2005 9:00:54 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Michael.SF.
"Instead of adding this as a rider to an existing bill that is sure to pass, he should have made it a stand alone bill"

I agree, that would have made it a classic check mate move. Any Senator that opposed it would have exposed as the roach he (or she) really is.
14 posted on 07/22/2005 9:02:00 AM PDT by angelsonmyside
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To: Chris Dickson
Ok, call me skeptical, but Frist is just being a politician here and "picking the low hanging fruit". I guess I'm supposed to feel like "Gee! Our Congressional Republicans really ARE working for us!"

Anybody know what, if any, teeth this bill has? Aren't the courts the scout's problem? Does the ACLU or the court really give a r@t's @ss what Congress thinks?
15 posted on 07/22/2005 9:05:45 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
I'm sorry, but when was the last time that leathercraft was considered an "important skill"? LOL

The Boy Scouts learn how to be prepared in any emergency. There could be a day in the future, because now they're just boys, where they may need to make foot ware and other items. It would great if everyone knew that stuff.

"A wise man hears of trouble coming and prepares for it. If that day does not arrive, he's still much better off because of it."

16 posted on 07/22/2005 9:11:20 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Learning to do things with your hands (other than handle a joystick, which is universal among kids today) is certainly an important skill, whether it's leathercraft or carpentry or shooting at a target or lifesaving or orienteering.

The merit badges that Scouts earn expose them to a wide range of skills and foster respect for others who with such abilities.

Do scouting skills transfer into real-life accomplishment? Ask those guys who went to the moon.

Sorry to be touchy about this, but don't pick on or scoff at the Scouts. You missed out if you weren't one.

An Eagle parent.


17 posted on 07/22/2005 9:17:16 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah
Sorry to be touchy about this, but don't pick on or scoff at the Scouts. You missed out if you weren't one.

I'm not picking on the Scouts. I'm a huge fan! Unfortunately, there wasn't a Boy Scout organization in my area when I was growing up. But, if I ever have a son, I FULLY plan on him being a part of it.

I was more making fun of Frist's office. I think they could have found something else that the Boy Scouts teach to list as an "important skill" than leathercraft!

18 posted on 07/22/2005 9:19:31 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative; Jedidah
I think they could have found something else that the Boy Scouts teach to list as an "important skill" than leathercraft!

I think the point was to illustrate the absurdity of the ACL-leftists "fear" of the Boy Scouts.

19 posted on 07/22/2005 9:24:50 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

"I was more making fun of Frist's office. I think they could have found something else that the Boy Scouts teach to list as an 'important skill' than leathercraft!"

You're right, of course.

I still have some pretty grim leather projects stuffed in the back of a closet!


20 posted on 07/22/2005 10:16:17 AM PDT by Jedidah
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