House, Senate OK Daylight-Saving Extension

AP ^ | 7/21/5

[SmithL]

WASHINGTON -- An agreement was reached Thursday to extend daylight-saving time in an effort to conserve energy, but not to the extent the House approved in April.

House and Senate negotiators on an energy bill agreed to begin daylight-saving time three weeks earlier, on the second Sunday in March, and extend it by one week to the first Sunday in November. The House bill would have added a month in the spring and another in the fall.

According to some senators, farmers complained that a two-month extension could adversely affect livestock, and airline officials said it would have complicated scheduling of international flights.

"We ought to take a hard look at this before we jump into it," said Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, who questioned how much oil savings the extension would produce.

[Indy Pendance]

And every industrial and manufacturing computers that run manufacturing machines. This is going to be worse than Y2K.

[lightman]

When DST's beginning was moved from the last Sunday in April to the First Sunday churches took the biggest hit, since that Sunday often coincides with Palm Sunday or Easter. Folks who forget to "spring forward" are an hour late to services.

The earliest that western Easter can ever fall is March 22; thus the earliest that western Palm Sunday can ever fall is March 15, which would be the third Sunday of March. Having DST begin on the second Sunday of March would end the Palm Sunday/Easter Sunday time change conflict.

I'm not as impressed with keeping it through the first Sunday in November.

[sonofatpatcher2]

They keep this up and we'll have 35 hour days and no nights!

[MarkL]

They keep this up and we'll have 35 hour days and no nights!

Well, you'll get used to it... Or have a psychotic incident...

Mark

[Mr Cobol]

Don't these people believe in glodal warming? The more sun they give us the hotter it gets. In that line of thinking if they reversed DST it would reduce global warming.

I guess they can't see that. These people are sooo stupid.

[MarkL]

And every industrial and manufacturing computers that run manufacturing machines. This is going to be worse than Y2K.

Well, on Novell servers, it's not a big deal at all. First off, the actual clocks run on UTC, and the "local time" is really just a cosmetic thing. Plus, DST is defined as an environment variable, and it's trivial to change.

I don't know about Windows, though...

Mark

[Mr Rogers]

If Daylight Saving Time lasts for 7 1/2 months, and normal time lasts 4 1/2 months, then shouldn't we change normal time to DST? Then we could have 4 1/2 months of Daylight Wasting Time...

Or, in Arizona, live like the Lord intended year round.

[TXBubba]

I must be dense, I still can't figure out how the Livestock will ever know.

ROFL..only thing that came to my mind was that milking time would be different. But doesn't that change anyway. What would a week or two do different? Are we SURE this isn't from The Onion?

[Indy Pendance]

My hubby is using linux, c++, or whatever their latest coding is, and he said it's going to be a huge kernel problem just to fix everything on all their machines. He works with time sensitive, real time data. On all the bulletin boards he frequents, many are expressing headaches.

[altura]

agree. make it year round.

[solitas]

"The beauty of daylight-saving time is that it just makes everyone feel sunnier," said Markey.

Dear senator Edward Markey (du-mASS): f_ck you.
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[skip_intro]

On all the bulletin boards he frequents, many are expressing headaches.

Absolutely. Not to mention embedded systems, where the code is in the chip.

I'll repeat my initial comment regarding the Congress on this issue: MORONS!

[Indy Pendance]

" the code is in the chip."

He was talking about this the other day, it won't be a case of writing a little macro an attaching it to the programs, manufacturing machines will have to be refitted, servers will have to be reworked, etc. I wonder who in the industry gave to this pac? We're not talking your home pc here, or even a small office or business, this is industrial strength stuff that will be effected.

[SolidSupplySide]

This is going to be worse than Y2K.

And we all know how terrible that was.

[jocko12]

Congress=637 FOOLS as members.

[Trteamer]

Some of you might remember that back in the early 70's we went year round daylight savings time.

I loved it! During the January goose season, I didn't have to be on the river hunting until 8:00 a.m. and there was still enough daylight after school to go for an evening hunt. Needless to say, the freezer was full.

I miss those days.

[zeugma]

I believe that in windows, the system clock is PST. Unix uses UTC for the system clock unless you tell the system not to. What really sucks is that you have a lot of systems out there already programmed to report the correct system time to the user based on today's "daylight savings" dates. These programs will have to be changed. This is a waste of time, money and effort for very little gain.

More and more I think that congress exists as an institution so we know where to find all the lunatics in one place.

[zeugma]

Unless the systems he's using have a particular reason to make use of local time, the clocks on Linux systems running control processes and whatnot should be using UTC. IMO, any production system should use UTC. It'll be a pain to change the programs that deal with user-space time, but it shouldn't be that bad for most production applications.

[thackney]

They keep this up and we'll have 35 hour days and no nights!

Sone of us have days that last for months. You'll get used to it.

[Augie76]

Funny . . .