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To: Steve_Seattle
Perhaps if we'd paid more attention to the German psyche in the 20s

Perhaps if we'd occupied Germany after WWI, then we wouldn't have had had to re-fight them 20 years later. This phase of the WOT is very similar - no one really wants to deal with what it will really take, so we just play around on the fringe. It's our children's generation (and the ones after that) which will finally have to settle this matter.

2,062 posted on 07/21/2005 10:37:29 AM PDT by lemura
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To: lemura
Perhaps if we'd occupied Germany after WWI, then we wouldn't have had had to re-fight them 20 years later.

Actually, we did....The Treaty of Versailles had it in Demand # 8 (here) and the US Army even issued a medal for it ( here).

2,093 posted on 07/21/2005 10:49:44 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: lemura; BlackElk; Travis McGee
This phase of the WOT is very similar - no one really wants to deal with what it will really take, so we just play around on the fringe. It's our children's generation (and the ones after that) which will finally have to settle this matter.

Very important insight-but I don't think we have that much time.

Victory in war requires that the winner go through a phase of disillusionment, when all their illusions are ground to dust and realists come to power in the military and the civilian sectors of the government.

Our principal illusion - that the war can end before Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are ended - has not yet begun to quiver.

Therefore, victory is far away, if it ever comes at all.

Defeat is as close as losers like today's London bombers getting their hands on real weapons.

Nuling Mecca is a diversion - we must build a force that can conquer and occupy all of Arabia including Jordan, and Pakistan - and we must do so with all deliberate speed.

The earliest we can start is probably January 2013, which may well be too late.

2,100 posted on 07/21/2005 10:51:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God)
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